X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 953103 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 22 May 2005 16:19:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.66; envelope-from=jerryhey@earthlink.net Received: from [63.189.97.224] (helo=earthlink.net) by smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DZwuB-0000lE-E6 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 22 May 2005 16:18:36 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=HuQ9W7XkSSk9yfIbjT0dSyrK5c13o1qnZTAa050mfV/hMP1dqoO18ir+rsjMyb4h; Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 15:20:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Crash investigation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1047073003 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jerry Hey To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-ELNK-Trace: 8104856d7830ec6b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a9c97022de8f9d86f166b8f06209ceac350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 63.189.97.224 --Apple-Mail-2-1047073003 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On Sunday, May 22, 2005, at 02:02 PM, WALTER B KERR wrote: > > David S wrote: > Preflight and Phase One support would be an important safety tool.=20 > There are "cheap" water brake "dynos" out there that can be used to=20 > vary loads on the engine to break it in (AND program its ECU) properly=20= > from the safety of the ground. Price is in the small thousands, and=20 > "leases" are available for around $100/month. Without inferring=20 > speculation against the recent accident, can you fathom the benefit of=20= > using such a device to determine IF and WHEN your engine will=20 > vaporlock? Or to determine EXACTLY how much HP you are making, so you=20= > can size the prop for it? Or so you can adequately determine your BSFC=20= > and efficiency? Or to know how much heat you really are generating, so=20= > you know how much you have to dissipate? Such a device could be=20 > loaned/rented to members (or even NON-members for a premium... still=20= > cheaper than Dyno time in a race shop) > --------------------------------------------- > I believe and easier=A0, less expensive way it to check your=20 > installation is using=A0 Tracy or Ed A's well known performance prop = and=20 > simple do early testing with it. You will know if you are in the=20 > ballpark with total installation, ie intake, exhaust, etc. I did this=20= > with Ed's prop and flew off my 40 hours with it. Now have got to get=20= > my prop reduced in power consumption and either buy Ed's or fly with=20= > mine. Hope to do so soon Ed, thanks for your patience. > =A0 > Bernie Sterba once told me that the only dyno he needed was one of his props. =20= Jerry > --Apple-Mail-2-1047073003 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sunday, May 22, 2005, at 02:02 PM, WALTER B KERR wrote: David S wrote: Preflight and Phase One support would be an important safety tool. There are "cheap" water brake "dynos" out there that can be used to vary loads on the engine to break it in (AND program its ECU) properly from the safety of the ground. Price is in the small thousands, and "leases" are available for around $100/month. Without inferring speculation against the recent accident, can you fathom the benefit of using such a device to determine IF and WHEN your engine will vaporlock? Or to determine EXACTLY how much HP you are making, so you can size the prop for it? Or so you can adequately determine your BSFC and efficiency? Or to know how much heat you really are generating, so you know how much you have to dissipate? Such a device could be loaned/rented to members (or even NON-members for a premium... still cheaper than Dyno time in a race shop) --------------------------------------------- I believe and easier=A0, less expensive way it to check your installation is using=A0 Tracy or Ed A's well known performance prop and simple do early testing with it. You will know if you are in the ballpark with total installation, ie intake, exhaust, etc. I did this with Ed's prop and flew off my 40 hours with it. Now have got to get my prop reduced in power consumption and either buy Ed's or fly with mine. Hope to do so soon Ed, thanks for your patience. =A0 Bernie Sterba once told me that the only dyno he needed was one of his props. =20= Jerry = --Apple-Mail-2-1047073003--