X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao04.cox.net ([68.230.241.35] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 953106 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 22 May 2005 16:17:52 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.35; envelope-from=ALVentures@cox.net Received: from BigAl ([68.7.14.39]) by fed1rmmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050522201706.LLVW23392.fed1rmmtao04.cox.net@BigAl> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 16:17:06 -0400 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: The Rotary Powered Flyers Association; or maybe ARPA Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:17:16 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c55f0b$3f654e90$6400a8c0@BigAl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C55ED0.93067690" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C55ED0.93067690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 David; =20 You are to be commended for picking up the ball on this thing, and = getting some positive yardage. Thank you. This effort needs a = leader/coordinator, and perhaps you've said the magic words which make you "it", at least = for now. Call on anyone you like for help. =20 A couple of comments:=20 =20 1. I think it important to bring this onto the ACRE list so people there = can be included. That, of course means allowing the inclusion of PL. He is very intent on furthering the recognition and use of the rotary engine; = and he has considerable knowledge to bring to certain aspects of these installations. To eliminate the one because of his tendency to assume = that PL's way is the only way, and thereby exclude a large group on his list; well, I'd think it a mistake. This is to be an "advisory" group; not = one that dictates practice. I'm not currently on the other list, but would = be happy to communicate with Paul about what we are doing, and get a = reaction. =20 2. It is worth exploring a connection to, or auspices of the EAA Technical Advisory program. It would lend credibility with FAA, = insurance companies, or whomever. =20 3.) I like ARPA; if for no other reason than it is an easily = pronounced acronym, and therefore more easily remembered. =20 You already know my interest and willingness to participate in this = effort.=20 I am in Vista, CA about 40 N of San Diego. I have a 20B installation on a Velocity SE RG. Not yet flown. I = designed basically all the ancillary systems for the engine (using Tracy's EC2, = EM2 and redrive); tested the engine on the dyno, and have run the full up installation on the airplane a total of about 4 hours, and briefly at = WOT. Everything works as expected so far. =20 As I am nearing first flight, I would welcome the Southwestern regional review team (as soon as it is formed, of course) to review, examine, and discuss my installation. =20 Rusty may be right in that no major formal thing is needed as far as = getting others involved in a project review. And that will help the safety = aspect. But it would be good to aim for going beyond, in order to get some recognition at the FAA or insurance company level. =20 Al -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Staten Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:26 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The Rotary Powered Flyers Association =20 Yes.. I'm keeping count. I am making a file in my address book and I am adding respondents to it. I figure the majority of responses will be in = by Sunday or Monday night. Then we will see where we stand. =20 Dave Bob Perkinson wrote: If your keeping count, count me in. =20 Bob Perkinson Hendersonville, TN. RV9A If Nothing Changes Nothing Changes! =20 Polling the list... =20 Interest in forming such a group. Participation requirements will be left to be determined. =20 Goals as previously stated: 1) Member Education and Safety 2) Pre-First Flight and Phase One Inspections and Support 3) Ongoing Peer Technical Support for rotary engined aircraft 4) Industry Liason (Insurance, Manufacturers, Kit Builders) 5) Accident Investigation / Rotary Engine Expertise =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html =20 =20 =20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C55ED0.93067690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

David;

 

You are to be commended for = picking up the ball on this thing, and getting some positive yardage.  Thank = you.  This effort needs a leader/coordinator, and perhaps you’ve said = the magic words which make you “it”, at least for now.  Call on = anyone you like for help.

 

A couple of comments: =

 

1. I think it important to bring = this onto the ACRE list so people there can be included.  That, of course = means allowing the inclusion of PL.  He is very intent on furthering the = recognition and use of the rotary engine; and he has considerable knowledge to bring = to certain aspects of these installations.  To eliminate the one = because of his tendency to assume that PL’s way is the only way, and thereby = exclude a large group on his list; well, I’d think it a mistake.  This is to = be an “advisory” group; not one that dictates practice.  I’m not currently on = the other list, but would be happy to communicate with Paul about what we = are doing, and get a reaction.

 

  1. It is worth = exploring a connection to, or auspices of the EAA Technical Advisory = program.  It would lend credibility with FAA, insurance companies, or = whomever.

 

3.)    I like ARPA; = if for no other reason than it is an easily pronounced acronym, and therefore more = easily remembered.

 

You already know my interest and = willingness to participate in this effort.

I am in Vista, = CA about 40 N of = San Diego.=

I have a 20B installation on a = Velocity SE RG.  Not yet flown.  I designed basically all the ancillary = systems for the engine (using Tracy’s EC2, EM2 and redrive); tested the = engine on the dyno, and have run the full up installation on the airplane a total = of about 4 hours, and briefly at WOT.  Everything works as expected so = far.

 

As I am nearing first flight, I = would welcome the Southwestern regional review team (as soon as it is formed, = of course) to review, examine, and discuss my = installation.

 

Rusty may be right in that no = major formal thing is needed as far as getting others involved in a project review.  And that will help the safety aspect.  But it would = be good to aim for going beyond, in order to get some recognition at the FAA or insurance company level.

 

Al

-----Origi= nal Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Staten
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:26 AM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = The Rotary Powered Flyers Association

 

Yes.. I'm = keeping count. I am making a file in my address book and I am adding respondents to it. = I figure the majority of responses will be in by Sunday or Monday night. = Then we will see where we stand.
 
Dave

Bob Perkinson wrote:

If your keeping =
count, count me in.
 
Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9A
If Nothing Changes
Nothing Changes!
 
Polling the list...
 
Interest in forming such a group. =
Participation requirements will be
left to be =
determined.
 
Goals as previously =
stated:
1) Member Education and =
Safety
2) Pre-First Flight and Phase One Inspections =
and Support
3) Ongoing Peer Technical Support for rotary =
engined aircraft
4) Industry Liason (Insurance, Manufacturers, =
Kit Builders)
5) Accident Investigation / Rotary Engine =
Expertise
 
 
 
 
  
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ronline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html
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