X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.206] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 939475 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:40:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.138.206; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id q.ff.134b303f (4312) for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:39:28 -0400 (EDT) From: WRJJRS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:39:28 EDT Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Synthetic Oil and Leaded Gasoline. To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1115786368" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5012 -------------------------------1115786368 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/10/2005 5:41:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, ianddsl@magma.ca writes: Has anybody used a quality 4 stroke motorcylce oil? They tend to provide good gear life performance as the transmission is often the sump. They also resist foaming at very high RPM. -- Ian Ian, When I worked for Kawasaki they tested tons of oils, a few stood out. I don't even know if it is still available, but Keystone 20-50 petroleum based was what they used on the wholesale level. This was a "standard" oil that tested well, at a moderate cost. Omega vacuum refined petroleum based "semi-synthetic" was a super high-end 20-50. (about 4-5 bucks a quart 20 years ago) The winner was Redline synthetic multi-grade for street or straight 40 or 50 wt. for racing. (remember synthetic 40 wt pours more like 30 wt petro) They did serious testing in the lab and running engines on the dyno. One thing that synthetic did really well was gears. Don't forget that most "modern"motorcycles lube the transmission with the engine oil. A high film strength is needed there. Since we are lubing many of our PSRU's with engine oil I believe a synthetic is a good crossover oil that will work well in both. I like redline, but it's expensive in yank dollars I can't imagine what it goes for, or if it's even available in Oz. Motul is generally available worldwide but is also very expensive. I think Mobile 1 is a good oil for the price. Run redline if you're flush it's GREAT oil. If you have a separate gear reduction I would definitely run Redline in the gearbox. They make a truly superior gear oil. Bill Jepson -------------------------------1115786368 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 5/10/2005 5:41:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 ianddsl@magma.ca writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Has=20 anybody used a quality 4 stroke motorcylce oil?  They tend to=20 provide
good gear life performance as the transmission is often the=20 sump.  They also
resist foaming at very high RPM. --=20 Ian
Ian,
 When I worked for Kawasaki they tested tons of oils, a few stood=20= out.=20 I don't even know if it is still available, but Keystone 20-50 petroleum bas= ed=20 was what they used on the wholesale level. This was a "standard" oil that te= sted=20 well, at a moderate cost. Omega vacuum refined petroleum based "semi-synthet= ic"=20 was a super high-end 20-50. (about 4-5 bucks a quart 20 years ago) The winne= r=20 was Redline synthetic multi-grade for street or straight 40 or 50 wt. for=20 racing. (remember synthetic 40 wt pours more like 30 wt petro)
 They did serious testing in the lab and running engines on the dy= no.=20 One thing that synthetic did really well was gears. Don't forget that most=20 "modern"motorcycles lube the transmission with the engine oil. A high film=20 strength is needed there. Since we are lubing many of our PSRU's with engine= oil=20 I believe a synthetic is a good crossover oil that will work well in both. I= =20 like redline, but it's expensive in yank dollars I can't imagine what it goe= s=20 for, or if it's even available in Oz. Motul is generally available worldwide= but=20 is also very expensive. I think Mobile 1 is a good oil for the price. Run=20 redline if you're flush it's GREAT oil. If you have a separate gear reductio= n I=20 would definitely run Redline in the gearbox. They make a truly superior gear= =20 oil.
Bill Jepson
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