Return-Path: Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.189] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP-TLS id 882589 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:58:55 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.189; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d211-31-73-154.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.31.73.154]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3ILw217012530 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:58:04 +1000 Message-ID: <002a01c54462$3981f870$9a491fd3@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New rotors, New housings Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:01:50 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C544B6.0A814DB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C544B6.0A814DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, I'm thinking about it - but no good to you chaps over there. George (down under) PS that's Australia for those who may be confused - don't laugh! I met a chap in New Mexico and he asked where I came from and when I = told him he said "Is that in North East Texas" - "I never been to N. = East Texas" he said - I assured him it wasn't. I've got a million of those stories! This has all the makings of a new cottage industry for someone with = the right machinery. Rework the apex seal slots, maybe .025 - .030 = oversize, with properly sized apex and side seals. Once you've built = the tooling, these could be turned out in very little time. Any takers? Mark S. =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 2:35 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New rotors, New housings =20 I do know that my worn slots measured 1.98 mm at the bottom and range = from 2.16 to 2.26mm at the top - giving an out of vertical of from 0.18 = to 0.28 mm. The specs say a maximum feeler gauge between an inserted = apex seal and wall is given as 0.15mm, I could insert an 0.18 mm feeler = in some and an 0.15mm in all. I don't think I would feel comfortable = flying with a rotary in that shape (anymore {:>)). Putting them in an = auto is a different story - if it breaks - park on side of the road = rather than strain the eyeballs looking for an airpatch. =20 Ed A ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher)=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 3:24 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New rotors, New housings =20 Ken I screwed up on reporting the rotor slot width, it = should be 2.17 to 2.26mm not 2.017 to 2.026mm Georges=20 -------Original Message------- =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft Date: 04/17/05 07:51:53 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New rotors, New housings =20 =20 =20 -------------- Original message from keltro@att.net (Kelly = Troyer): --------------=20 Georges, Are these numbers in reference to the apex seal slot taper = from=20 the bottom of slot (2.017 mm) to the top of slot (2.026 mm) = which is a taper of (.009 mm) or about 3.54 thousands here in the 48 = ?? -- Kelly Troyer=20 Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2=20 =20 -------------- Original message from "Echo Lake Fishing Resort = (Georges Boucher)" : --------------=20 Correction, the readings were 2.017 to 2.026mm Georges =20 =20 -------Original Message------- =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft Date: 04/16/05 19:05:31 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New rotors, New housings =20 Hi! Ken Do you you cut on a taper, where does your taper = start? or do you just skim 0.015" off each side for a total of 0.030". I = just measured the two rotors that were in a "GOOD" running 92 13b NA & = got a reading of 0.017 to 0.026mm, I guess they are toast. =20 Georges Boucher -------Original Message------- =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: = 4/16/2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C544B6.0A814DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,
I'm thinking about it - but no good to = you chaps=20 over there.
George (down under)
PS that's Australia for those who may = be confused -=20 don't laugh!
 
I met a chap in New = Mexico and he asked=20 where I came from and when I told him he said "Is that in North = East Texas"=20 - "I never been to N. East Texas" he said - I assured him it=20 wasn't.
 
I've got a million of those = stories!

This has = all the=20 makings of a new cottage industry for someone with the right = machinery. =20 Rework the apex seal slots, maybe .025 - .030 oversize, with properly = sized=20 apex and side seals.  Once you=92ve built the tooling, these = could be=20 turned out in very little time.  Any = takers?

Mark = S. =20     

 

From: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed = Anderson
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 = 2:35=20 PM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Re: New rotors, New housings

 

I do know that my worn = slots=20 measured 1.98 mm at the bottom and range from 2.16 to 2.26mm at the = top -=20 giving an out of vertical of from 0.18 to 0.28 mm.  The specs say = a=20 maximum feeler gauge between an inserted apex seal and wall is given = as=20 0.15mm, I could insert an 0.18 mm feeler in some and an  0.15mm = in=20 all.   I don't think I would feel comfortable flying with a = rotary=20 in that shape (anymore {:>)).  Putting them in an auto is a = different=20 story - if it breaks - park on side of the road rather than = strain the=20 eyeballs looking for an airpatch.

 

Ed A

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Echo=20 Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher)=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 April 17, 2005 3:24 PM

Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: New rotors, New = housings

 

 Ken I=20 screwed up on reporting the  rotor slot width, it should = be 2.17=20 to 2.26mm not 2.017 to = 2.026mm

Georges 

-------Original=20 Message-------

 

Date:=20 04/17/05 07:51:53

Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: New rotors, New=20 housings

 

 

 

-------------- = Original=20 message from keltro@att.net (Kelly=20 Troyer): -------------- =


Georges,

    Are=20 these numbers in reference to the apex seal slot taper from=20

the bottom of=20 slot (2.017 mm) to the top of slot (2.026 mm)=20 which

is=20 a taper of (.009 mm) or about 3.54 thousands here in the = 48=20 ??

--
Kelly = Troyer=20
Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2=20


 

-------------- = Original=20 message from "Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher)"=20 <echolakeresort@telus.net>: --------------=20

Correction, the=20 readings were 2.017 to=20 2.026mm

Georges=20  

 

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From: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft

Date: 04/16/05=20 19:05:31

To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft

Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: New=20 rotors, New = housings

 

 Hi!=20 Ken

Do = you you cut=20 on a taper, where does your taper start? or do you = just=20 skim 0.015" off each side for a total of 0.030". I = just=20 measured the two rotors that were in a "GOOD" = running 92=20 13b NA & got a reading of 0.017 to 0.026mm, I = guess=20 they are toast.

 

 Georges=20 Boucher

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