X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (direct reply)\eX-PolluStop-Score: 0.00\eX-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop 2.1 RC1, http://www.niversoft.com/pollustop Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTP id 865227 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:19:02 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.202.56; envelope-from=n3773@comcast.net Received: from rv8 (c-24-21-140-241.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.21.140.241]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050411191816012005it20e>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:18:16 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c53ecb$3693b460$f18c1518@rv8> Reply-To: "kevin lane" From: "kevin lane" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Washing Machine Was [FlyRotary] Re: The Verdit! c wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:18:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C53E90.82F38FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C53E90.82F38FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed - it's funny to read about your washer, I had the exact thing happen = to ours. I discovered that I had disassembled way more than is = necessary(if you know what is broken). On vacation my sister-in-law's = washer, the exact same model, broke, and I fixed it in like 1/2 hr., = maintaining an image I have with them that I can fix anything! :-) Kevin Lane Portland, OR (wow, he can fix 3-way switches without = shutting off the power) e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Washing Machine Was [FlyRotary] Re: The Verdit! c = wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( I don't know, Finn. I was under the impression that the seals (not = counting Tracy's seals) were fairly brittle and broke before they bent. I have the engine back in the shop and was starting the tear down, = when the wife came down and informed me the washing machine wasn't = working AGGHGGG! Of course, the appliance makers now assume no one = does home repair so there is not so much as a parts exploded diagram. = But, managed to get it apart expecting to see belts - but nope - direct = drive. But, I do spot the problem there is a plastic coupler between = the motor and the gear box and it is clearly broken. Well, because of = no parts diagram have to search the inter net to find a diagram, locate = the part number and find a store that had one. But, great the store = will print me out a diagram of the system! Wife goes to get part while = I return to engine. Comes back with part, but because the lady I talked = to had gone to lunch the new lady didn't know which diagram to print out = ARRRGGG! =20 Anyhow as I write this the wife is cleaning up the mess around the = washer and she has just called, so its back to putting the washer = backtogether and then maybe to the engine Arrrrrrgggg! Ed A ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Finn Lassen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:44 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The Verdit! c wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on = Sun & Fun{:<( Ed Anderson wrote: =20 It appears that Al's assessment may be correct that particularly = because of the apparent orientation of the electrode when I screw it = into the hole ending up such that the apex hit the curved back part = rather than the end pointed toward the center electrode. It appears the = apex seal did bounce over that curve part for a while and either the = apex seals finally gave way or the springs under them did. Perhaps Lynn = would know if its possible to break the springs while leaving the seal = intact.=20 Could the seals be bent to the point they no longer can more freely = in the grooves? Finn ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C53E90.82F38FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ed - it's funny to read about = your=20 washer, I had the exact thing happen to ours.  I discovered that I = had=20 disassembled way more than is necessary(if you know what is = broken).  On=20 vacation my sister-in-law's washer, the exact same model, broke, and I = fixed it=20 in like 1/2 hr., maintaining an image I have with them that I can fix = anything!=20 :-)
Kevin Lane  Portland, OR (wow, he can fix 3-way switches = without=20 shutting off the power)
e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net
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From:=20 Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 = 12:08=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Washing = Machine Was=20 [FlyRotary] Re: The Verdit! c wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on Sun &=20 Fun{:<(

I don't know, Finn.  I was under = the=20 impression that the seals (not counting Tracy's seals) were fairly = brittle and=20 broke before they bent.
 
I have the engine back in the shop = and was=20 starting the tear down, when the wife came down and informed me the = washing=20 machine wasn't working AGGHGGG!   Of course, the appliance = makers=20 now assume no one does home repair so there is not so much as a parts = exploded=20 diagram.  But, managed to get it apart expecting to see belts - = but nope=20 - direct drive.  But, I do spot the problem there is a plastic = coupler=20 between the motor and the gear box and it is clearly broken.  = Well,=20 because of no parts diagram have to search the inter net to find a = diagram,=20 locate the part number and find a store that had one.  But, great = the=20 store will print me out a diagram of the system!  Wife goes to = get part=20 while I return to engine.  Comes back with part, but because the = lady I=20 talked to had gone to lunch the new lady didn't know which diagram to = print=20 out ARRRGGG! 
 
Anyhow as I write this the wife is = cleaning up=20 the mess around the washer and she has just called, so its back to = putting the=20 washer backtogether and then maybe to the engine
 
Arrrrrrgggg!
 
Ed A
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Finn=20 Lassen
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 = 8:44=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The = Verdit! c=20 wasRe: [FlyRotary] No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<(

Ed Anderson wrote: =  =20
It appears that Al's assessment = may be=20 correct that particularly because of the apparent orientation of = the=20 electrode when I screw it into the hole ending up such that the = apex hit=20 the curved back part rather than the end pointed toward the center = electrode.  It appears the apex seal did bounce over that = curve part=20 for a while and either the apex seals finally gave way or the = springs=20 under them did.  Perhaps Lynn would know if its possible to = break the=20 springs while leaving the seal intact. =
Could=20 the seals be bent to the point they no longer can more freely in the = grooves?

Finn
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