X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (direct reply)\eX-PolluStop-Score: 0.00\eX-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop 2.1 RC1, http://www.niversoft.com/pollustop Return-Path: Received: from [207.189.223.49] (HELO email3.peakpeak.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTPS id 864592 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 03:20:33 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.189.223.49; envelope-from=billdube@killacycle.com Received: (qmail 8859 invoked by uid 513); 11 Apr 2005 08:03:43 -0000 Received: from 207.189.221.97 by email3 (envelope-from , uid 504) with qmail-scanner-1.23 (clamscan: 0.75.1. Clear:RC:1(207.189.221.97):. Processed in 0.882396 secs); 11 Apr 2005 08:03:43 -0000 Received: from 97-221-189-207.dyn.peakpeak.com (HELO tigger.killacycle.com) ([207.189.221.97]) (envelope-sender ) by email3.peakpeak.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Apr 2005 08:03:42 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20050411004721.045a02a8@mail.chisp.net> X-Sender: billdube@mail.chisp.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 01:18:38 -0600 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" From: "BillDube@killacycle.com" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] CAD instruction ... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:58 PM 4/10/2005, you wrote: >All, >On somebody's recommendation I bought TurboCad last month. I assumed >there would be some sort of tutorial or something. Evidently not. The >local Tech school has a course I could enroll in but they use AutoCad >(8). Are the packages similar enough that I could learn the basics in >this course and proceed from there? I think that enough folks on this list are interested in CAD generally that this is worth an on-line response. There are "solid modeling" type CAD programs and 2-D type CAD programs. Unless you are doing wiring diagrams, PCB layout, or need to work with legacy drawings, solid modeling is probably what you want for aircraft design. AutoDesk AutoCad is a 2-D program that has 3-D abilities. AutoDesk Inventor is a solid modeling program and is complete departure from AutoCad. They have virtually nothing in common. (They have so little in common that AutoDesk provides a copy of Mechanical Desktop (top of the line AutoCad) with each copy of Inventor so you can still do something with your old drawings.) I know AutoCAD very well and it was not any help when I moved over to Inventor. It is that different. Your main choices for solid modeling are SolidWorks, Inventor, and ProEngineer. There are others, but they are less popular than these main three. If you are a student, you can get a very sweet deal on these. So much so that it you would save money by enrolling in your local community college just to get the discount on the software. If you are comfortable with computers, it is likely that you will be able to learn to use one of the solid modeler programs from the tutorials that come with the program. It is faster to take a short course, however. It will take a several weeks of study to learn it on your own. I should add that one of my favorite parts of Inventor is the "sheet metal" modeler. It is astounding. You tell it the type of metal and the thickness and it figures out exactly how it will stretch when it bends. I have made really complicated sheet metal designs and they come out perfectly. You can even drill the holes before you bend the sheet and they will all line up. I just print out the unfolded sheet on the plotter, stick it to the sheet with double-sided tape, then cut, drill, and bend on the dotted lines. If you buy ANSYS DesignSpace, you have a direct link from the solid model that you draw in Inventor to the ANSYS finite element analysis. Just click on the ANSYS icon in Inventor and your model is in ANSYS ready for structural, thermal, magnetic, or electrical analysis. You can even add in computational fluid dynamics if you need that (for a price.) Bill Dube http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm