X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (direct reply)\eX-PolluStop-Score: 0.00\eX-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop 2.1 RC1, http://www.niversoft.com/pollustop Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTP id 864327 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:42:23 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-185-127.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.185.127]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j3ANfb0W004547 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002f01c53e26$d68f6bd0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:41:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C53E05.4F4BBF50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C53E05.4F4BBF50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why does everyone else come up with the good ideas? Good Idea George, = it just so happens I have a couple of housings out in the shop. I will do that tomorrow. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: George Lendich=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:26 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( Ed, I guess I stating the obvious but wouldn't be easier to take out a = spark plug and put it in a spare/old housing to check for depth. George (down under) Thanks, Al, Yes, I truly mean it when I say so long as the problem permits me to = get back on the ground safely, I am not grousing. S__T does happen and = all you can do it try to avoid the worst of it {:>) =20 B9EGV? Humm, I apparently misread one of the e mails I had on the = plugs topic as B9EQV - wouldn't that be the kicker if all this came = about because I misread one letter. However since they are both "E" =3D = 3/4" length they should(maybe) be interchangeable. I did hold one up to = the stock plug and eyeballed it but had no reason to dig out the = calipers and measure it.=20 Thanks, I had not thought of that possibility as to why the delay = in damage (if it were caused by too long plugs) as the seals jumping = over the plug part until becoming too damaged. The rear rotor went = first which then started a vibration which may have helped the front = rotor's demise along. =20 Well, going out this AM to hopefully pull the engine load it in the = Van and get it back to the shop. Am going to check on the plugs and the = plenum - could be something else I guess - but not a clue as to what it = might be. Will keep everyone informed. =20 Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Al Gietzen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:10 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( , I had just put in 4 new B9EQV spark plugs the previous day. =20 Ed; Sorry to hear of your disappointing trip. But, hey; s__t happens. = You did the right thing, of course. When the engine isn't running = properly, you take the nearest airport. It's great that you and your = plane got down just fine. If it is the plugs, perhaps it's possible that the seals jumped = over the protruding plugs for a while until they became damaged enough = for loss of compression? Pulling a leading plug should tell the story = on that. How did you choose the B9EQV? Did you know of someone else = using them? I'm running the B9EGV and they are fine. Al ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C53E05.4F4BBF50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Why does everyone else come up with the = good=20 ideas?  Good Idea George, it just so happens I have a couple of = housings=20 out in the shop.
I will do that tomorrow.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 George=20 Lendich
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 = 5:26=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: No Joy = on Sun=20 & Fun{:<(

 
Ed,
I guess I stating the obvious but = wouldn't be=20 easier to take out a spark plug and put it in a spare/old housing to = check for=20 depth.
George (down under)
Thanks, Al,
 
Yes, I truly mean it when I say so = long as the=20 problem permits me to get back on the ground safely, I am not=20 grousing. S__T does happen and all you can do it try to avoid = the worst=20 of it {:>) 
 
B9EGV?  Humm,  I = apparently misread=20 one of the e mails I had on the plugs topic as B9EQV - wouldn't that = be the=20 kicker if all this came about because I misread one letter.  = However=20 since they are both "E" =3D 3/4" length they should(maybe) be=20 interchangeable.  I did hold one up to the stock plug = and=20 eyeballed it but had no reason to dig out the calipers and = measure=20 it. 
 
Thanks,  I had not thought of = that=20 possibility as to why the delay in damage (if it were caused by too = long=20 plugs) as the seals jumping over the plug part until becoming too=20 damaged.  The rear rotor = went first=20 which then started a vibration which may have helped the front = rotor's=20 demise along. 
 
Well, going out this AM to = hopefully pull the=20 engine load it in the Van and get it back to the shop.  Am = going to=20 check on the plugs and the plenum - could be something else I guess = - but=20 not a clue as to what it might be.
 
Will keep everyone informed. =20
 
Ed
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Al=20 Gietzen
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, April 10, = 2005 1:10=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: No = Joy on=20 Sun & Fun{:<(

, I = had just put=20 in 4 new B9EQV spark plugs the previous day.  =

 

Ed;

 

Sorry = to hear=20 of your disappointing trip.  But, hey; s__t happens. =  You did=20 the right thing, of course.  When the engine isn=92t running = properly,=20 you take the nearest airport.  It=92s great that you and your = plane got=20 down just fine.

 

If it = is the=20 plugs, perhaps it=92s possible that the seals jumped over the = protruding=20 plugs for a while until they became damaged enough for loss of=20 compression?  Pulling a leading plug should tell the story on = that.=20 How did you choose the B9EQV?  Did you know of someone else = using=20 them? I=92m running the B9EGV and they are fine.

 

Al

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