X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (direct reply)\eX-PolluStop-Score: 0.00\eX-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop 2.1 RC1, http://www.niversoft.com/pollustop Return-Path: Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.186] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTPS id 864233 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:23:54 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.186; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d220-236-46-86.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.236.46.86]) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3ALN1Ok013599 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:23:04 +1000 Message-ID: <000d01c53e13$fc47c5b0$562eecdc@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:26:40 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C53E67.CD813DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C53E67.CD813DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed, I guess I stating the obvious but wouldn't be easier to take out a spark = plug and put it in a spare/old housing to check for depth. George (down under) Thanks, Al, Yes, I truly mean it when I say so long as the problem permits me to = get back on the ground safely, I am not grousing. S__T does happen and = all you can do it try to avoid the worst of it {:>) =20 B9EGV? Humm, I apparently misread one of the e mails I had on the = plugs topic as B9EQV - wouldn't that be the kicker if all this came = about because I misread one letter. However since they are both "E" =3D = 3/4" length they should(maybe) be interchangeable. I did hold one up to = the stock plug and eyeballed it but had no reason to dig out the = calipers and measure it.=20 Thanks, I had not thought of that possibility as to why the delay in = damage (if it were caused by too long plugs) as the seals jumping over = the plug part until becoming too damaged. The rear rotor went first = which then started a vibration which may have helped the front rotor's = demise along. =20 Well, going out this AM to hopefully pull the engine load it in the = Van and get it back to the shop. Am going to check on the plugs and the = plenum - could be something else I guess - but not a clue as to what it = might be. Will keep everyone informed. =20 Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Al Gietzen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:10 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( , I had just put in 4 new B9EQV spark plugs the previous day. =20 Ed; Sorry to hear of your disappointing trip. But, hey; s__t happens. = You did the right thing, of course. When the engine isn't running = properly, you take the nearest airport. It's great that you and your = plane got down just fine. If it is the plugs, perhaps it's possible that the seals jumped over = the protruding plugs for a while until they became damaged enough for = loss of compression? Pulling a leading plug should tell the story on = that. How did you choose the B9EQV? Did you know of someone else using = them? I'm running the B9EGV and they are fine. Al ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C53E67.CD813DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ed,

I guess I stating the obvious but = wouldn't be=20 easier to take out a spark plug and put it in a spare/old housing to = check for=20 depth.

George (down under)

Thanks, Al,

Yes, I truly mean it when I say so = long as the=20 problem permits me to get back on the ground safely, I am not=20 grousing. S__T does happen and all you can do it try to avoid the = worst=20 of it {:>)

B9EGV? Humm, I apparently = misread one=20 of the e mails I had on the plugs topic as B9EQV - wouldn't that be = the kicker=20 if all this came about because I misread one letter. However = since they=20 are both "E" =3D 3/4" length they should(maybe) be = interchangeable. I=20 did hold one up to the stock plug and eyeballed it but had no=20 reason to dig out the calipers and measure it.

Thanks, I had not thought of = that=20 possibility as to why the delay in damage (if it were caused by too = long=20 plugs) as the seals jumping over the plug part until becoming too=20 damaged. The rear rotor went = first which=20 then started a vibration which may have helped the front rotor's = demise=20 along.

Well, going out this AM to hopefully = pull the=20 engine load it in the Van and get it back to the shop. Am going = to check=20 on the plugs and the plenum - could be something else I guess - but = not a clue=20 as to what it might be.

Will keep everyone informed. =

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Al = Gietzen=20
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 = 1:10=20 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: No = Joy on Sun=20 & Fun{:<(

, I had just put in 4 = new B9EQV=20 spark plugs the previous day.

Ed;

Sorry = to hear of=20 your disappointing trip. But, hey; s__t happens. You did = the=20 right thing, of course. When the engine isn=92t running = properly, you=20 take the nearest airport. It=92s great that you and your plane = got down=20 just fine.

If it = is the=20 plugs, perhaps it=92s possible that the seals jumped over the = protruding plugs=20 for a while until they became damaged enough for loss of = compression? =20 Pulling a leading plug should tell the story on that. How did you = choose the=20 B9EQV? Did you know of someone else using them? I=92m running = the B9EGV=20 and they are fine.

Al

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