X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: \eX-PolluStop-Score: 0.00\eX-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop 2.1 RC1, http://www.niversoft.com/pollustop Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTP id 863898 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:17:38 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.131.116; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from 204.127.135.75 ([204.127.135.75]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2005041014165811200lkrc2e>; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:16:58 +0000 Received: from [209.247.222.116] by 204.127.135.75; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:16:57 +0000 From: keltro@att.net (Kelly Troyer) To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:16:57 +0000 Message-Id: <041020051416.27221.42593559000B558300006A552160466648019D9B040A05@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Feb 14 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_27221_1113142617_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_27221_1113142617_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed, Al beat me to it !! I thought there was a letter wrong on those plugs from memory (which is slipping).......Was about to look it up in my saved info.... Are you going to use up all possible failure modes before the rest of us ?? Kidding of course.......So glad you are a cool head in these situations !! Best Regards -- Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 -------------- Original message from "Ed Anderson" : -------------- Thanks, Al, Yes, I truly mean it when I say so long as the problem permits me to get back on the ground safely, I am not grousing. S__T does happen and all you can do it try to avoid the worst of it {:>) B9EGV? Humm, I apparently misread one of the e mails I had on the plugs topic as B9EQV - wouldn't that be the kicker if all this came about because I misread one letter. However since they are both "E" = 3/4" length they should(maybe) be interchangeable. I did hold one up to the stock plug and eyeballed it but had no reason to dig out the calipers and measure it. Thanks, I had not thought of that possibility as to why the delay in damage (if it were caused by too long plugs) as the seals jumping over the plug part until becoming too damaged. The rear rotor went first which then started a vibration which may have helped the front rotor's demise along. Well, going out this AM to hopefully pull the engine load it in the Van and get it back to the shop. Am going to check on the plugs and the plenum - could be something else I guess - but not a clue as to what it might be. Will keep everyone informed. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Gietzen To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:10 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<( , I had just put in 4 new B9EQV spark plugs the previous day. Ed; Sorry to hear of your disappointing trip. But, hey; s__t happens. You did the right thing, of course. When the engine isn’t running properly, you take the nearest airport. It’s great that you and your plane got down just fine. If it is the plugs, perhaps it’s possible that the seals jumped over the protruding plugs for a while until they became damaged enough for loss of compression? Pulling a leading plug should tell the story on that. How did you choose the B9EQV? Did you know of someone else using them? I’m running the B9EGV and they are fine. Al --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_27221_1113142617_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Ed,
  Al beat me to it !! I thought there was a letter wrong on those plugs from
memory (which is slipping).......Was about to look it up in my saved info....
Are you going to use up all possible failure modes before the rest of us ??
Kidding of course.......So glad you are a cool head in these situations !!
 
Best Regards
--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2




-------------- Original message from "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>: --------------

Thanks, Al,
 
Yes, I truly mean it when I say so long as the problem permits me to get back on the ground safely, I am not grousing. S__T does happen and all you can do it try to avoid the worst of it {:>) 
 
B9EGV?  Humm,  I apparently misread one of the e mails I had on the plugs topic as B9EQV - wouldn't that be the kicker if all this came about because I misread one letter.  However since they are both "E" = 3/4" length they should(maybe) be interchangeable.  I did hold one up to the stock plug and eyeballed it but had no reason to dig out the calipers and measure it. 
 
Thanks,  I had not thought of that possibility as to why the delay in damage (if it were caused by too long plugs) as the seals jumping over the plug part until becoming too damaged.  The rear rotor went first which then started a vibration which may have helped the front rotor's demise along. 
 
Well, going out this AM to hopefully pull the engine load it in the Van and get it back to the shop.  Am going to check on the plugs and the plenum - could be something else I guess - but not a clue as to what it might be.
 
Will keep everyone informed. 
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Al Gietzen
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:10 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: No Joy on Sun & Fun{:<(

, I had just put in 4 new B9EQV spark plugs the previous day. 

 

Ed;

 

Sorry to hear of your disappointing trip.  But, hey; s__t happens.  You did the right thing, of course.  When the engine isn’t running properly, you take the nearest airport.  It’s great that you and your plane got down just fine.

 

If it is the plugs, perhaps it’s possible that the seals jumped over the protruding plugs for a while until they became damaged enough for loss of compression?  Pulling a leading plug should tell the story on that. How did you choose the B9EQV?  Did you know of someone else using them? I’m running the B9EGV and they are fine.

 

Al

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