Return-Path: Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.185] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 616994 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:24:15 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.185; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d220-236-26-139.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.236.26.139] (may be forged)) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j0M0NfEl010399 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:23:42 +1100 Message-ID: <015701c50018$e2cf2ad0$8b1aecdc@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: SLAs.... was Re: titanium single rotor Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:25:32 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0154_01C5006C.B4350A10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0154_01C5006C.B4350A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re Titanium Rotors, I just realised that Titanium, although strong as steel and half the = weight, does not wear well and the grooves for the apex and side seals = would suffer badly IMHO. George ( down under) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alex Madsen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SLAs.... was Re: titanium single rotor =20 Take a look at Xpress3D. They provide a plug in for several solid = molding programs including that gives you instant quotes on several = rapid prototyping processes including SLA. =20 http://www.xpress3d.com/ =20 =20 Alex Madsen=20 ________________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Joa Harrison Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:48 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SLAs.... was Re: titanium single rotor =20 Nope, I don't have an SLA machine. Normally the casting houses will = have folks they like to work with and will include the price of the SLA = in the casting price. Of course they mark up the SLA (as well as all = tooling). You would be amazed at the mark-up for non-recurring charges = :) =20 =20 Basically the sales guy (they like to call themselves "account = managers") will give you a high price and see if you gag. If you don't = then they know you "really need it" and are happy to take your money :) =20 I was recently reminded of this in the extrusion industry. I went out = for quote to bunch of houses for aluminum extrusions for some new VGs = I'm developing and the both the die price and the price per pound varied = up to 350%! I also found that if I went through a broker the prices = doubled to tripled. The moral: shop around and deal directly with the = manufacturer :) Joa www.landshorter.com =20 WRJJRS@aol.com wrote: Joa, Do you have access to thew SLA machine? I use SolidWorks all the time = and they have the ability to output a SLA file directly. It would be = great to do a clean inlet manifold and throttle body castings. Any idea = if we can buy time? Thanks, Bill Jepson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0154_01C5006C.B4350A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Re Titanium Rotors,
I just realised that Titanium, although = strong as=20 steel and half the weight, does not wear well and the grooves for the = apex and=20 side seals would suffer badly IMHO.
George ( down under)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alex=20 Madsen
Sent: Saturday, January 22, = 2005 8:48=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = SLAs.... was Re:=20 titanium single rotor

 

Take a look at Xpress3D. They provide a plug = in for=20 several solid molding programs including that gives you instant quotes = on=20 several rapid prototyping processes including SLA.  =20

http://www.xpress3d.com/=

 

 

Alex Madsen

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From: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Joa Harrison

Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:48=20 AM

To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SLAs.... was Re: = titanium=20 single rotor

 

Nope, I don't have an SLA machine.   Normally the casting = houses=20 will have folks they like to work with and will include the price of = the=20 SLA in the casting price.  Of = course=20 they mark up the SLA (as well as = all=20 tooling).  You would be amazed at the mark-up for non-recurring = charges=20 :)  

 

Basically the sales guy (they like to call = themselves=20 "account managers") will give you a high price and see if you = gag.  If=20 you don't then they know you "really need it" and are happy to take = your money=20 :)

 

I was recently reminded of this in the = extrusion=20 industry.  I went out for quote to bunch of houses for = aluminum=20 extrusions for some new VGs I'm developing and the both the die=20 price and the price per pound varied up to 350%!  =  I also=20 found that if I went through a broker the prices doubled to tripled.   The moral: shop around and = deal=20 directly with the manufacturer :)

Joa

www.landshorter.com

 

WRJJRS@aol.com = wrote:

Joa,

Do you have access to thew SLA machine? I use SolidWorks all the time and = they have=20 the ability to output a SLA file = directly. It=20 would be great to do a clean inlet manifold and throttle body = castings. Any=20 idea if we can buy time? Thanks,

Bill Jepson

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