Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #15743
From: George Lendich <lendich@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Injector Sizing
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:19:43 +1000
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Thanks Ed,
More info than I asked for but not more than I need.
George (down under)
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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Injector Sizing

George, my fuel pressure gauge reads between 40 and 43 psi depending on whether I have one or both pumps on.  I fly with 40 psi (one pump).   My pump (with no flow) will give a pressure of 80 psi, but a regulator keeps it at 40-43 psi.  I generally check my pumps for their no-flow pressure and have noticed over the 6 years that the pressure of the main pump has decreased from 80 psi to 60 psi - so getting near replacement time.  The spare pump still produces 80 psi - less wear as it is normally only on for take off and landing.
 
Ed A
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:52 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Injector Sizing

 
Ken and Ed Anderson.
Your info and advice is well recieved and timely for me - I didn't know what to use, now at least I can talk with some knowledge to suppliers.
One small question if I may - what is the fuel rail pressure usually?
Thanks again!
George ( down under)
 
Hi Jerry and George,
The debate over the optimal injector size has been going on for years.  I personally plan to use 400cc/38 lb or 440cc/42 lb Ford injectors.  According to http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/how-to/fuel_system/calcs.html 38 lb injectors at 80% duty cycle / 43 lb / .5 BSFC pressure are good for 242 HP.  The 440cc/42 lb injecors are good for 267 HP. 
 
Also check out RC Engineering which is the most accepted expert that I know of (http://www.rceng.com/technical.htm#WORKSHEET).  Using the same assumptions the 38 lb injectors are good for 242 HP and the 42 lb injectors are also good for 267 HP.  Looks like these guys are using the same formulas - good to see consistency from 2 different sources.
 
Lastly, note that injectors should not be run continuously over 80% duty cycle or they will overheat and fail.  A smaller is better when it comes to idle control.  DO NOT forget this part of the equation.  Lastly, at cruise altitudes the injector cycle rate decreases as the HP requirement decreases so at 8000 ft the duty cycle of the injectors will only be 60 % which is very safe for sustained operation.  Call me if you want to discuss this.  Go play with the calculators posted above (which George has already done).   

Ken Powell
Bryant, Arkansas
501-847-4721
 
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