Return-Path: Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 616291 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:56:50 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.5; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id q.c8.56d6ca72 (16035) for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-d19.webmail.aol.com [205.188.139.135]) by air-id10.mx.aol.com (v104.17) with ESMTP id MAILINID102-3ea341f1424437; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:56:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:56:20 -0500 From: WRJJRS@aol.com To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net ("Rotary motors in aircraft") Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Pport/cold side injectors MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <07D6D8E8.710234B2.00051B7E@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 66.127.99.234 X-AOL-Language: english Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed, Mistral said that the problem they encountered was response time and slightly lower BSFC. They just put together a new manifold that looks very nice. They are convinced that they need near-the-port injectors however. Bill Jepson In a message dated 1/21/2005 9:12:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Ed Anderson" writes: >The Swiss Mistral rotary folks reported that when they went to long runners >that they believed they encountered  a "distillation" problem as Ernest >mentioned.  Due to this problem they believed that they encounter detonation >with their turbo set up due to the "Low Octane" part being ingested at a >different time than the lighter high octane part of the fuel.  I am >certainly not enough of a chemist to even know if this even sounds >plausible.  However, the team did have a Chemist and that is what he >reported. > >I must admit I'm a little bit skeptical of this mode as it would seem that >even if it happened you would have a continuos stream of light and heavy >elements intermixing between one injection period and the next.  But, they >certainly had the resources and inclination to look into the problem and >that was their conclusion. > >Ed A > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ernest Christley" >To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:48 AM >Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Pport/cold side injectors > > >> On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 20:41, Jerry Hey wrote: >> > Thanks Ken,   I want to try to make cold side fuel injection  work. >> > Idon't see any reason, YET,  that would indicate the system would >> > notwork.  But if it does not work, then I will COPY  your set up. >> > >> > I have seen carburetor intakes on P Ports with about  a  12 inch >> > runner made from a 90 degree sweep.   They were turning out  huge >> > power.    Jerry >> > >> >> Check the FlyRotary archives.  There was some discussion of long runners >> a while back.  I forget who it was, but they found that the fuel will >> 'distill' in the runners.  The lighter compounds get sucked out and >> ingested immediately.  The heavier parts fall behind and get taken in as >> clumps.  The end result was that the engine wasn't breathing a nice even >> mixture, but a uneven combination of light petroleum gasses and balls of >> oil. >> >> At least that is how I understood it all. >> >> >> >> >>  Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> >>  Archive:   http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > > > >>>  Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>  Archive:   http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >