Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.103] (HELO ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 616013 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:10:33 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-185-127.carolina.rr.com [24.74.185.127]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j0LEA1Ci023835 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:10:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000e01c4ffc3$31f657b0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Pport/cold side injectors Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:12:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine The Swiss Mistral rotary folks reported that when they went to long runners that they believed they encountered a "distillation" problem as Ernest mentioned. Due to this problem they believed that they encounter detonation with their turbo set up due to the "Low Octane" part being ingested at a different time than the lighter high octane part of the fuel. I am certainly not enough of a chemist to even know if this even sounds plausible. However, the team did have a Chemist and that is what he reported. I must admit I'm a little bit skeptical of this mode as it would seem that even if it happened you would have a continuos stream of light and heavy elements intermixing between one injection period and the next. But, they certainly had the resources and inclination to look into the problem and that was their conclusion. Ed A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Christley" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Pport/cold side injectors > On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 20:41, Jerry Hey wrote: > > Thanks Ken, I want to try to make cold side fuel injection work. > > Idon't see any reason, YET, that would indicate the system would > > notwork. But if it does not work, then I will COPY your set up. > > > > I have seen carburetor intakes on P Ports with about a 12 inch > > runner made from a 90 degree sweep. They were turning out huge > > power. Jerry > > > > Check the FlyRotary archives. There was some discussion of long runners > a while back. I forget who it was, but they found that the fuel will > 'distill' in the runners. The lighter compounds get sucked out and > ingested immediately. The heavier parts fall behind and get taken in as > clumps. The end result was that the engine wasn't breathing a nice even > mixture, but a uneven combination of light petroleum gasses and balls of > oil. > > At least that is how I understood it all. > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >