Return-Path: Received: from smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ([66.163.168.184] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with SMTP id 559759 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:12:28 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.168.184; envelope-from=dcarter@datarecall.net Received: from unknown (HELO Davidscmptr) (dcarter11@sbcglobal.net@69.148.208.164 with login) by smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2004 03:11:59 -0000 Message-ID: <058601c4dcd3$ac8dc980$6501a8c0@Davidscmptr> Reply-To: "David Carter" From: "David Carter" To: "Larry James" Cc: "flyrotary" References: Subject: Re: Fire Suppression System-items from my personal archive Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 21:11:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Thanks for the new link, Larry - looks like race car hardware that we can easily adapt/use. - Your ending sentence was, "just need to choose which Halon to get it with" [meaning, do we use 1211 or 1301?] - You probably noted that they sell extinguishers with "either" Halon 1301 "or" Halon 1211. To see the difference, go to www.h3r.com, then go down right column to "Aviation FAQs", and click "What is 1211 - 1301 Halon?" http://www.h3r.com/products/faq.htm#q1 That link/web page discusses the "1211-1301 blend". - They say the blend is 150% as effective as unblended Halon. - H3R points out that the blend is now legal "only for aviation use", so the race car folks aren't going to stock the blend - unless they can be persuaded to sell a blend "for aviation use" and it is not a significant work load on them to "blend" the two. I have an e-mail to livermore asking about their ability to fill tanks with the blend - will Cc this list. Hardware options: - Both the livermore and H3R tanks are aluminum. - The H3R tanks have "quick-disconnect" fittings to accept H3R wands (see left column of h3r main page, click Aviation Fire Protection link, then the "Wands Aluminum" link) - The tanks and hardware from www.livermoreperformance.com seem to give us a wider selection of discharge/distribution tubing, fittings, etc, for the engine compartment. Looks like the heads on the livermore tanks are much more flexible and suitable for connecting our engine compartment discharge lines. Maybe we could ship the livermore tanks to h3r for filling with the "blend". David Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry James" To: "David Carter" Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: RE: Fire Suppression System-items from my personal archive > Thanks for the info. No ISP issues here (we have a very large pipe). > Here is another link to a Halon system: > http://www.livermoreperformance.com/safecraft_fire_systems.html#LT > I like this set-up ..... just need to choose which Halon to get it with > Larry