Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #13541
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: A/F Indicator Circuits
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:04:23 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Re: [FlyRotary] Nice to Have  Re: ECU oxygen sensor
Joe, unable to quickly find my own diagram (might have lost if when the harddrive crashed a month ago), but here are some URLs to circuits like the one I used.  Some even have part numbers and range from printed circuit boards to hand wired.  Let me know any questions you may have.
 
This first one does not have a diagram but shows the bar LED which I prefer, but others may use individual LED bulbs (your choice)
 
 
This one is a simple version that uses a voltage regulator to maintain stability (but not absolutely required)
 
 
similar ones
 
 
 
This one shows the two resistors as variable resistors so you can vary brightness of the LEDs as well as adjust the voltage reference point (useful as the O2 sensor ages).  Note you can have the LED display as either a single dot or as a bar depending on whether pin 9 on the LM3914 chip is open or connected to V+
 
They are all pretty much the same based on the LM3914 chip.
 
Hope one will be the right one for you {:>)
 
Ed Anderson
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 11:20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Nice to Have Re: ECU oxygen sensor

Be Glad to, Joe.
 
Its a fairly easy circuit with one easy to wire chip and while you can use individual LED diodes, I would recommend one of the 10 LED bars - much easier to wire up in my opinion that 20 tiny wires from 10 LEDs.
 
I'll need to dig around in my files and come up with it.  Send me a reminder if you don't hear from me in a couple of days.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:40 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Nice to Have Re: ECU oxygen sensor

Ed,
Would you mind sharing any of the electrical specs and / or wiring diagrams for you LED A/F indicator?
Thanks,
Joe
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:59 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Nice to Have Re: ECU oxygen sensor

I think the one Tracy sells is as good and inexpensive as they come.  All of the ones that I am familiar with use the same basic design (except for the latest ones that use the new (and expensive) so-called broad band sensor).  I personally like the ones that use the 3/4 wire sensor (these have their own heating element) as you do not have to wait for the exhaust gas to warm up the sensor before it start working.  They are a bit more expensive that the 1/2 wire sensor may $10-20 more.
 
I built my own LED A/F indicator  and integrated it with my fuel monitoring system.  But regardless of whether you build or buy, they are well worth having, in fact I would rather lose my EGTs than my LED A/F indicator.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:18 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Nice to Have Re: ECU oxygen sensor

On 12/6/04 2:20 PM, "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

I certainly would not draw that conclusion, Bulent.  I have found theLED  A/F indictors such a good indication of what my engine is doing that I would hesitate to fly without it now.  If the engine starts to stumble you immediately know whether it because its too much or too little fuel - sort of nice to know, trust me. {:>)

Ed Anderson

Thanks Ed,
By any chance can you recommend one A/F indicator?. I have installed the single wire O2 sensor that came with the engine. I may even replace it?
Bulent
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