Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.102] (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 558608 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 06 Dec 2004 23:23:04 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-069-132-109-019.carolina.rr.com [69.132.109.19]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id iB74MUkd026264 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 23:22:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002901c4dc14$1bda3b40$2502a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Nice to Have Re: ECU oxygen sensor Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 23:20:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C4DBEA.32CD6BD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C4DBEA.32CD6BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [FlyRotary] Nice to Have Re: ECU oxygen sensorBe Glad to, Joe. Its a fairly easy circuit with one easy to wire chip and while you can = use individual LED diodes, I would recommend one of the 10 LED bars - = much easier to wire up in my opinion that 20 tiny wires from 10 LEDs. I'll need to dig around in my files and come up with it. Send me a = reminder if you don't hear from me in a couple of days. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joe=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:40 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Nice to Have Re: ECU oxygen sensor Ed, Would you mind sharing any of the electrical specs and / or wiring = diagrams for you LED A/F indicator? Thanks, Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Nice to Have Re: ECU oxygen sensor I think the one Tracy sells is as good and inexpensive as they come. = All of the ones that I am familiar with use the same basic design = (except for the latest ones that use the new (and expensive) so-called = broad band sensor). I personally like the ones that use the 3/4 wire = sensor (these have their own heating element) as you do not have to wait = for the exhaust gas to warm up the sensor before it start working. They = are a bit more expensive that the 1/2 wire sensor may $10-20 more. I built my own LED A/F indicator and integrated it with my fuel = monitoring system. But regardless of whether you build or buy, they are = well worth having, in fact I would rather lose my EGTs than my LED A/F = indicator. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bulent Aliev=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Nice to Have Re: ECU oxygen sensor On 12/6/04 2:20 PM, "Ed Anderson" = wrote: I certainly would not draw that conclusion, Bulent. I have = found theLED A/F indictors such a good indication of what my engine is = doing that I would hesitate to fly without it now. If the engine starts = to stumble you immediately know whether it because its too much or too = little fuel - sort of nice to know, trust me. {:>) Ed Anderson Thanks Ed, By any chance can you recommend one A/F indicator?. I have = installed the single wire O2 sensor that came with the engine. I may = even replace it? Bulent ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C4DBEA.32CD6BD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [FlyRotary] Nice to Have =A0Re: ECU oxygen = sensor
Be Glad to, Joe.
 
Its a fairly easy circuit with one easy = to wire=20 chip and while you can use individual LED diodes, I would recommend one = of the=20 10 LED bars - much easier to wire up in my opinion that 20 tiny wires = from 10=20 LEDs.
 
I'll need to dig around in my files and = come up=20 with it.  Send me a reminder if you don't hear from me in a couple = of=20 days.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Joe
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 = 8:40=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Nice = to Have Re:=20 ECU oxygen sensor

Ed,
Would you mind sharing any of the = electrical=20 specs and / or wiring diagrams for you LED A/F indicator?
Thanks,
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed Anderson
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Monday, December 06, = 2004 7:59=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Nice = to Have=20 Re: ECU oxygen sensor

I think the one Tracy sells is as = good and=20 inexpensive as they come.  All of the ones that I am familiar = with use=20 the same basic design (except for the latest ones that use the new = (and=20 expensive) so-called broad band sensor).  I personally like the = ones=20 that use the 3/4 wire sensor (these have their own heating element) = as you=20 do not have to wait for the exhaust gas to warm up the sensor before = it=20 start working.  They are a bit more expensive that the 1/2 wire = sensor=20 may $10-20 more.
 
I built my own LED A/F indicator =  and=20 integrated it with my fuel monitoring system.  But regardless = of=20 whether you build or buy, they are well worth having, in fact I = would rather=20 lose my EGTs than my LED A/F indicator.
 
Ed
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Bulent Aliev
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Monday, December 06, = 2004 3:18=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Nice to Have=20 Re: ECU oxygen sensor

On 12/6/04=20 2:20 PM, "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com&g= t;=20 wrote:

I = certainly=20 would not draw that conclusion, Bulent.  I have found = theLED=20  A/F indictors such a good indication of what my engine is = doing=20 that I would hesitate to fly without it now.  If the engine = starts=20 to stumble you immediately know whether it because its too much = or too=20 little fuel - sort of nice to know, trust me. = {:>)

Ed = Anderson

Thanks Ed,
By = any chance can=20 you recommend one A/F indicator?. I have installed the single wire = O2=20 sensor that came with the engine. I may even replace=20 it?
Bulent
=20
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