Return-Path: Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 556932 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:09:12 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.70; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from [65.2.250.205] by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20041206010841.FVOO2051.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[65.2.250.205]> for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 20:08:41 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:08:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: gear drive for distributor and oil metering pump From: Bulent Aliev To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 12/5/04 8:03 PM, "Charlie England" wrote: > Ernest Christley wrote: > >> David Carter wrote: >> >>> Wonder if "we" could come up with an alternator to drop into that hole - >>> some back-up "juice" for our "electrically dependent engines". >>> >>> David >>> >> >> That is exactly what I've been thinking, David. Steve stopped by to >> look at my project last week, and we were discussing it. Thanks to Mr. >> Leonard over there, I now know what to look for. >> >> I need to find a 2/3HP or 500W or 30Amp generator/DC PM motor. It'll >> be 3" or 4" in diameter, with a couple inches of shaft sticking out. >> I'm thinking it would be easy enough to key the shaft to fit as a >> direct replacement for the metering pump. >> >> I don't have the numbers with me, but I was doodling with them a while >> back. I figured something like a couple of in.lb. of torque on the >> worm gear to produce 500W at 6000RPM. I now know the gear would turn >> at half that, so it is still less that 5in.lb. on the gear. The >> upshot is that 3000RPM motors are much more abundant that 6000RPM motors. >> >> I'm trying to source a part. I'm also thinking that a standard >> alternator can be made to fit by cutting down the housing. >> > Try your John Deere dealer. I know 20A versions are available, & I think > that there's a 30A version as well. They are also found on Yanmar (sp?) > tractors. The 20A one is not much bigger than the Mazda crank angle sensor. > > I've been asking about using that shaft for an alt. drive for a while > but this is the 1st interest I've seen from others. I like the idea of > using it to run the engine electronics independently with the aircraft > electrical system as backup. > > The questions are: will the shaft take the load, & will the alt. make > enough current at cruise to supply the engine's needs? > > Charlie > There is a 15A Cubota also. Bulent