Return-Path: Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 555467 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:28:13 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.64; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from p3e2l2 ([216.78.114.44]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with SMTP id <20041204012742.BJRG1980.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@p3e2l2> for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 20:27:42 -0500 Message-ID: <003a01c4d99f$9eb36180$2c724ed8@p3e2l2> From: "paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New Muffler Design Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 19:21:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 My stock cast iron manifold is around 5/16 " thick. Paul Conner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dube" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:47 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Muffler Design > > > I have the smaller 1988 cast iron manifold, > >and including pipe, my total exhaust weight is 12 pounds. What appeals to > >me most is that it is compact, simple, and I don't have to worry about thin > >walled pipes glowing red inside my cowling, as the cast iron manifold > >absorbs a lot of heat that would otherwise turn exhaust pipes red hot. > > The noise reduction with thick headers is real. Thin headers on > cars make a noticeable increase in the noise level. They make a lot of > high-pitched "ping-hiss" sort of noise. (At the instant you first > disconnect an air tool, it makes this sort of sound.) It is like you can > hear the valves opening through the thin-wall header pipes. The pipe itself > also rings with each exhaust pulse. > > A thick-walled pipe only delays the temperature rise and spreads > out any hot spots. It does not reduce the final, steady-state, average > surface temperature. The thin-wall pipe will indeed have more prominent hot > spots. These hot spots will appear on the outside radius of the bends as > they leave the engine, where you can see them easily. > > It is probably be a good idea to use thick-walled pipe for the > first several inches, and then transition to thin-walled pipe. I don't > know, but I suspect that the stock manifold is quite a bit thicker than it > needs to be, however. > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >