Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.100] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 540686 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:52:33 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.100; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-069-132-109-019.carolina.rr.com [69.132.109.19]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id iALDpxKk003166 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:52:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <009001c4cfd1$4999d7b0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: how do you carry, and measure oil? Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:52:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01C4CFA7.60705880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C4CFA7.60705880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageHI Rusty, I have used the MMO/2 cycle mix in the past but for the last 100 = hours I have been using the Wal-Mart Marine 2 cycle oil. After reading = up on the different classifications of 2 cycle oil (most brands are all = in one now) and looking at the temperature profiles for the apex seals I = concluded that almost anything would do a better job than crankcase oil = of lubricating the seals. And 2 cycle certainly leaves less residue = than crankcase oil. Besides, its cheap and readily available. I have used everything from = the Royal Purple brand (almost $5.00 a quart!) to the Wal-Mart brand and = just can not tell a difference - other than cost of course. FWIW Ed Anderson ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russell Duffy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 10:25 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: how do you carry, and measure oil? Hi Rusty, Why people think that MMO is solution for everything?=20 I agree that it sounds like snake oil. The problem is that it's been = around forever, and with excellent results. =20 2 cycle oil was designed to be used just for our purpose.=20 To my knowledge, 2-cycle oil was never intended to lubricate apex = seals. I'd be willing to bet that any 2-cycle oil manufacturer would = publicly state that their product is NOT for use in rotary engines :-) =20 =20 I know you'll make faces when I mention PL =20 You're right, and for good reason. Seriously, Tracy has used this stuff for more hours than anyone has = used 2-stroke oil. Heck, I believe Finn uses it too, and he just hit = 500 hours. Can't recall what Ed uses. The stuff works, and it's = impossible to argue with that. =20 Cheers, Rusty (waiting for GOOD MRI parts, to take the place of the BAD parts = I got today... I love my job...) ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C4CFA7.60705880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
HI Rusty,
 
    I have used the = MMO/2 cycle mix=20 in the past but for the last 100 hours I have been using the Wal-Mart = Marine 2=20 cycle oil.  After reading up on the different classifications of 2 = cycle=20 oil (most brands are all in one now) and looking at the temperature = profiles for the apex seals I concluded that almost anything would do a = better=20 job than crankcase oil of lubricating the seals.  And 2 cycle = certainly=20 leaves less residue than crankcase oil.
 
Besides, its cheap and readily = available. I have=20 used everything from the Royal Purple brand (almost $5.00 a quart!) to = the=20 Wal-Mart brand and just can not tell a difference - other than cost of=20 course.  FWIW
 
Ed Anderson
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Saturday, November 20, = 2004 10:25=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: how do = you=20 carry, and measure oil?

Hi Rusty, = Why people=20 think that MMO is solution for everything? 
 
I agree that it=20 sounds like snake oil.  The problem is that it's been around = forever, and with excellent results.  =    
 
2 cycle oil = was designed=20 to be used just for our purpose. 
&nbs= p;
To my = knowledge,=20 2-cycle oil was never intended to lubricate apex seals.  I'd = be=20 willing to bet that any 2-cycle oil manufacturer would publicly state=20 that their product is NOT for use in rotary engines=20 :-)  
  
  I know you=92ll make faces = when I mention=20 PL  
 
You're right,=20 and for good reason.
 
Seriously,=20 Tracy has used this stuff for more hours than anyone has used 2-stroke = oil.  Heck, I believe Finn uses it too, and he just hit 500=20 hours.  Can't recall what Ed uses.  The stuff works, and = it's=20 impossible to argue with that.  =
 
Cheers,
Rusty (waiting=20 for GOOD MRI parts, to take the place of the BAD parts I got today... = I love=20 my job...)
 
 
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