Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #12629
From: Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] PM alternator/generator with EWP
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 13:59:15 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
How about a thermocouple array on the exhaust system.  There's 1700
degrees there that should generate quit a bit of power. If you can get
100 mW from each one you would need 4200 TC's to get 12 V at 35 A.

Bob White

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 14:33:06 -0500
Ernest Christley <echristley@nc.rr.com> wrote:

Per the discussion of breaking belts...

Belts are needed for two things, the alternator and the water pump. But if we replace the water pump can we get rid of the belt?

Has anyone considered replacing the crank angle sensor with a PM alternator/generator?

The things are relative simple (a can of coiled wire with some magnets
on a spinning shaft in the middle), but what effect would a spinning magnet have on the hall effect sensor that drives the ignition system?

I've been looking at this a while.  It looks like a hole could be
tapped and threaded into the top of the crank angle sensor shaft.  A
generator with a threaded shaft would be screwed into that, properly
oriented threads insuring that the generator shaft will never come
unscrewed, and some straps on the housing to keep it from spinning.

A 35A generator, is < 500W would only need a few ft.oz. of retaining force at 6000RPM.

The front pulley could be replaced with the same sort of installation.

Another consideraton.  Alternators have a heavy shell, bearings and mounting because there is a substantial side loads and vibrations derived from the belt.  A gear driven generator can be much lighter, with just a sheet metal can for a housing.

I've got a number for an electrical engineer who is going to help me work out the feasability and sizing for this application, but I'd like
the thoughts of anyone on the list.


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