Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 354963 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Aug 2004 13:45:42 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.202.56; envelope-from=n3773@comcast.net Received: from rv8 (c-24-21-140-241.client.comcast.net[24.21.140.241]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2004080617451101200r11c1e> (Authid: n3773@comcast.net); Fri, 6 Aug 2004 17:45:11 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01c47bdd$1d0ce630$f18c1518@rv8> Reply-To: "kevin lane" From: "kevin lane" To: "flyrotary" Subject: battery question Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:45:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C47BA2.6D752A50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C47BA2.6D752A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -Gary dunfee is a mobile x-ray tech and eaa member. the batteries he = uses come in matched sets. when one goes "bad" (performance drops) the = whole batch gets replaced. Gary gives us these batteries. he claims = they are the highest quality made, exceeding the odyssey batteries. they = are a bit heavier because of the additional plates inside. my hangar = mate has at least three years and maybe 500hrs on his. I recently put a fresh one in my plane. I flew it an hour and it worked = fine. I was amazed at how fast the prop turned over, indicating how old = the prior battery had gotten. the battery had been sitting on the shelf = a year maybe before I installed it. it showed about 11 1/2 volts then. I flew to Camarillo last week. about 20 miles from crater lake, smack = in the middle of the cascade mountains, I noticed my egt's shooting up = 100 degrees. I pushed the mixture to full rich, but that only slowed = rate. I pulled some power and got them to start back down. I realized = my rose ignition had tripped. also I had not shut off my strobe and = wigwag lights. my volt meter showed 8 volts. I figured I had lost my = alternator. I shut down everything. I had just been dropped by flight = following because of radar coverage. my wife was very calm! I was = flying the t-craft version of the rv, no electrical system. I even shut = off my gps since it had switched to its battery. Klamath falls was less = than 30 minutes. then I noticed my voltage was up to 10 volts. = interesting. I decided to shoot for Carson city and save my 8500' of = altitude. a bit later I saw 11 1/2 volts. thank god I kept the = altitude. at one point Ellen say "there's an airport below us". yeah, = RNO, ceiling 8400'. so much for my off and on gps technique. voltage = was showing 13 1/2 volts now. I tried turning things back on, and there = seemed to be no problems. we got gas at Carson city, lunch at minde, = and flew to Camarillo, no problems. I wasn't able to talk with anyone = about this and flew back, 6 hrs, with no problems, 13 1/2 volts the = whole time. so, is it possible the battery had a charge that wore off and then went = into some deep charge mode, overloading my little nippondenso = alternator? the most amps I ever saw was 20 while it was trying to get = back to the 13 volt mark. maybe leaving my lights on was too much? has = this problem fixed itself, or do I need to pull the alternator and = battery to have them tested? I used to pretty much ignore the volt = meter while flying. not anymore. Kevin Lane Portland, OR e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net web-> http://home.comcast.net/~n3773 (browse w/ internet explorer) ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C47BA2.6D752A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
-Gary dunfee is a mobile = x-ray tech and=20 eaa member.  the batteries he uses come in matched sets.  when = one=20 goes "bad" (performance drops) the whole batch gets replaced.  Gary = gives=20 us these batteries.  he claims they are the highest quality made, = exceeding=20 the odyssey batteries. they are a bit heavier because of the additional = plates=20 inside.  my hangar mate has at least three years and maybe 500hrs = on=20 his.
I recently put a fresh one in = my=20 plane.  I flew it an hour and it worked fine.  I was amazed at = how=20 fast the prop turned over, indicating how old the prior battery had=20 gotten.  the battery had been sitting on the shelf a year maybe = before I=20 installed it.  it showed about 11 1/2 volts then.
I flew to Camarillo last = week. =20 about 20 miles from crater lake, smack in the middle of the cascade = mountains, I=20 noticed my egt's shooting up 100 degrees.  I pushed the mixture to = full=20 rich, but that only slowed rate.  I pulled some power and got = them to=20 start back down.  I realized my rose ignition had tripped.  = also I had=20 not shut off my strobe and wigwag lights.  my volt meter showed 8=20 volts.  I figured I had lost my alternator.  I shut down=20 everything.  I had just been dropped by flight following because of = radar=20 coverage.  my wife was very calm!  I was flying the t-craft = version of=20 the rv, no electrical system.  I even shut off my gps since it had = switched=20 to its battery.  Klamath falls was less than 30 minutes.  then = I=20 noticed my voltage was up to 10 volts.  interesting.  I = decided to=20 shoot for Carson city and save my 8500' of altitude.  a bit later I = saw 11=20 1/2 volts.  thank god I kept the altitude.  at one point Ellen = say=20 "there's an airport below us".  yeah, RNO, ceiling 8400'.  so = much for=20 my off and on gps technique.  voltage was showing 13 1/2 volts = now.  I=20 tried turning things back on, and there seemed to be no problems.  = we got=20 gas at Carson city, lunch at minde, and flew to Camarillo, no = problems.  I=20 wasn't able to talk with anyone about this and flew back, 6 hrs, with no = problems, 13 1/2 volts the whole time.
so, is it possible the = battery had a=20 charge that wore off and then went into some deep charge mode, = overloading my=20 little nippondenso alternator?  the most amps I ever saw was 20 = while it=20 was trying to get back to the 13 volt mark.  maybe leaving my = lights on was=20 too much?  has this problem fixed itself, or do I need to pull the=20 alternator and battery to have them tested?  I used to pretty much = ignore=20 the volt meter while flying.  not anymore.
Kevin Lane  Portland,=20 OR
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