Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #70551
From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@verizon.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Fwd: John Deakin on climbing with a tsio-550
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:31:11 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

They are not clickable in my MS Outlook.

 


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Colyn Case
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:41 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: Fwd: John Deakin on climbing with a tsio-550

 

I had to size them down a bit to get by Marv but if you double click them you should be able to view them in a pre-viewer and get them to a legible size.

 

On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote:



Those landmark charts are not really legible.  Can they be blown up for better understanding?

Can they be found somewhere with an explanation attached?

 


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Colyn Case
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:13 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Fwd: John Deakin on climbing with a tsio-550

 

 

fyi - I put the question to John.  Here's what I got back.

 

Begin forwarded message:

 

From: John Deakin <jdeakin@advancedpilot.com>

Date: August 11, 2014 2:33:16 PM EDT

To: Colyn Case at earthlink <colyncase@earthlink.net>

Subject: Re: climb with a tsio-550

 

Are you still answering aps questions?

 

You bet!  <grin>

 

 

With a tsio-550 you have these interactions:

- decreasing rpm moves theta-pp back toward TDC

- decreasing MP if mixture were constant moves theta-pp away from TDC

- decreasing throttle from max reduces mixture

 

Do you have any idea of the magnitudes of these effects?

 

For magnitude, I can only refer to the “Landmarks” chart (see below).  It doesn’t directly address your question, though.

 

We’ve long suggested 200 RPM off takeoff power for noise reduction.  It’s not exactly good for the engine, but it won’t do any harm.  Better chance of harm of the TSIOs and TIOs, but still pretty benign.

 

Then George did some noise certification work for the FAA, which involved heavy instrumentation of the Ada airport and surroundings.  He got a lot of interesting data!  One item was with only 100 RPM off the top end you get 90% of the noise reduction you get with 200 off!

 

So full takeoff power from LIMITATIONs, reduced by 100 RPM for noise.  Very, very minor effect.  Now, if you’re talking big radials at 60” MP, and often operating in detonation, that’s another story!

 

 

It is also commonly thought that reducing MP to 31 inches and rpm to 2500 is easier on the engine.

So far as I can tell, this is NOT true.

 

You are correct!  NOT true.  Full power to cruise altitude, UNLESS there is a time limit on full power IN LIMITATIONS.

 

Best...

Next LIVE seminar in Ada OK, 10/24/2014

 

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