X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 13:28:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from eu1sys200aog115.obsmtp.com ([207.126.144.139] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with SMTPS id 6847609 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 26 Apr 2014 04:38:08 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.126.144.139; envelope-from=lancair@meier.cc Received: from kdn6.futureweb.at ([85.125.90.138]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob115.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKU1twTL3bESzdRXCglzHJM/1seq0M8Q1J@postini.com; Sat, 26 Apr 2014 08:38:08 UTC Received: from [192.168.168.10] (sjon195149219169.surfer.sjon.at [195.149.219.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by kdn6.futureweb.at (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s3Q8bUaU027714 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 26 Apr 2014 10:37:31 +0200 From: Christian Meier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BAEE8ACE-E8EA-44FF-AEA5-7CAB0524DF94" X-Original-Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: [LML] Experimental Airplanes in Europe: Highly Restricted X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 10:37:34 +0200 References: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) --Apple-Mail=_BAEE8ACE-E8EA-44FF-AEA5-7CAB0524DF94 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Here is a very good description from the british LAA about flying abroad = in europe: = http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/engineering/TechnicalLeaflets/Op= erating%20An%20Aircraft/TL%202.08%20Travelling%20abroad%20in%20a%20Permit%= 20Aircraft.pdf There is a agreement of most european countries called ECAC to make = cross country flights easy. You might need special permission for certain countries which is easy to = get. They want to see the insurance, permit to fly and the pilot = licence, and maybe a little fee. In Austria IFR for experimentals is possible!! A certified avionic shop = has to do the installation and papers! There are many Lancairs around in Europe! There is a european Fly Inn in Marmande (LFDM) from 6th to 9th of june = 2014 (flyinmarmande@gmail.com) Nothing difficult to fly experimentals in europe... Christian OE-CCM Am 25.04.2014 um 13:55 schrieb jeffrey liegner : > I copied the text below form a post in the Diamond Aviators Forums by = a fellow who lives in Switzerland and is based at LSGL (Lausanne = Blecheret Airport, Suisse). >=20 > "The experimental world is fascinating, and I would have taken the = plunge long ago. Now listen to this sad news: >=20 > Here in Europe, Experimental means you have to renew the permit to fly = EVERY YEAR, for EVERY COUNTRY you intend to visit. And forget about IFR = or even night VFR... >=20 > Lucky americans.." >=20 > I had no idea that the rules in Europe on experimentals is so onerous. = So I assume there aren=92t many Lancairs based in Europe. >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >=20 --Apple-Mail=_BAEE8ACE-E8EA-44FF-AEA5-7CAB0524DF94 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Here = is a very good description from the british LAA about flying abroad in = europe:
There is a agreement of most = european countries called ECAC to make cross country flights = easy.
You might need special permission for certain countries = which is easy to get. They want to see the insurance, permit to fly and = the pilot licence, and maybe a little fee.

In = Austria IFR for experimentals is possible!! A certified avionic shop has = to do the installation and papers!

There are = many Lancairs around in Europe!
There is a european Fly Inn in = Marmande (LFDM) from 6th  to 9th of june 2014 (flyinmarmande@gmail.com)

=
Nothing difficult to fly experimentals in = europe...

Christian
OE-CCM

Am 25.04.2014 um 13:55 schrieb = jeffrey liegner <liegner@ptd.net>:

I copied = the text below form a post in the Diamond Aviators Forums by a fellow = who lives in Switzerland and is based at LSGL (Lausanne Blecheret = Airport, Suisse).

"The experimental world is fascinating, and I = would have taken the plunge long ago. Now listen to this sad = news:

Here in Europe, Experimental means you have to renew the = permit to fly EVERY YEAR, for EVERY COUNTRY you intend to visit. And = forget about IFR or even night VFR...

Lucky americans.."

I = had no idea that the rules in Europe on experimentals is so onerous. So = I assume there aren=92t many Lancairs based in Europe.

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