X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:12:26 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm19-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([216.109.115.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6792238 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 17:14:13 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.109.115.103; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.196.81.161] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2014 21:13:37 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.98] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2014 21:13:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2014 21:13:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 85089.22776.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: x1gKfYEVM1k3o5dNix1boNX8fCQNPJbm9SSgHkKg6m7hYDW 1C8jaFXmrmrLCHhI5DZdkFCWwGAlS9yVKBi8D0FAJk_245TqamwbMjwQPxlu uF5BUCtgwvMvcuiDnvozAwKi_wxty5uCZhZxfUHlU6egTeZk6BtLCkHKqrD7 beK4bX11Zv5uLKJAesAYm1JgEsQC0NyruPU6SHvzeFyh_N4sJxwcOI7LvPG1 GdKieQNPGdNZ7YoKRPqNYqX1lOhSamlCmqTC2bxnTvw1CXk9_EujY5CpLYqf gFbu1qyIra4KB82t0CBgPGd6ogxaeLfxPYT6rmYWFohEp3XiscAxTBZmc.4h 9Oe8Rh0A2Pp6qyLPxLuwb_aOBYRVv1FhIOWFc3WRvYp1ixkZ3F3T6RL5xVQT niNueAjUgwuSrGNOFkCrMOLl6wOQsdU3XKWQrfh1tnxyclItwFPmDhO8oJwE Q57SiFW8yQNEk7Vzu5mtYLaZe8HjJ.a5NrGhsPqAhLsOe1ioi6oGl8L7G9mr 4GSQKoQzh4RSDncTpiZZr3qrP2NUtxZaj1xB7ZvVYD3HOaqbq8qGKnYZA3Fs SMH2dtE3smPt0og8Xy9oTyiWt.LpTPhJVNSubt64fgf0RuyOjYiVDhJ3vL5d wa51w_x_nJEVSx6NJhn_7V9pwvcPvMkKwVFmKSnVJPwMUHW7Ge.BUVQrF2.C M7NYkmKzUIXa44OsBQRyhN8hVbKxiHq2Xl5m97iM6PM6GCXRrnQiufPWG.Y5 s8gecfsLzZfLd6r8nCn.Zu3wALWtH_gwbH3.fDbUrv5GYDJAowrSs2YteVFk 91E_8bb2vWTY6Tj5AACdB X-Yahoo-SMTP: gncFbbmswBBF8NfvI5ui22IxJJ5CCB4H6ZgiimJia8BbGK2EyA-- X-Rocket-Received: from [10.6.18.214] (bbradburry@50.84.165.35 with plain [98.138.84.52]) by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2014 21:13:37 +0000 UTC X-Original-Message-ID: <532DFD00.5010101@bellsouth.net> X-Original-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:13:36 -0500 From: Bill Bradburry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Prime suspect References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bet that would have been beautiful at night! B2 On 3/16/2014 8:41 AM, adam@validationpartners.com wrote: > During January's cold snap I had to attempt an engine start after the > plane had been sitting outside in 20degF weather for 4 hours. After > many minutes of cranking, priming, and more cranking I had to throw in > the towel and cancel the flight. I had the FBO move my plane to their > heated hangar. When I was finally able to retrieve it 4 days later I > noticed significant heat damage on belly just aft of the right exhaust > pipe. I don't know how long the damage was there but I strongly > suspect it was from raw fuel spitting out the exhaust and catching fire. > > You can see pictures of the damage and repair here: > https://plus.google.com/photos/102798913343718743387/albums/5991210570436247697?authkey=CIK38uXuxNOOJg > > > I believe this ties in with recent discussions about vibration > isolation for exhaust systems. The header pipe attaches to the > tailpipe with a ball joint which allows about 3" of movement in any > direction. A stiff rubber strap bolts to the firewall and extends down > to support the tailpipe and attaches with a clamp. > > The problem is that the rubber strap allows too much movement. I set > the strap length so that the tailpipe is angled slightly down. But if > I push the tailpipe up so it's parallel to the fuselage or even angled > up slightly it stays there after I let go. The stiffness of the rubber > strap can't overcome the friction in the ball joint. > > I'm not sure about the solution yet. Certainly changing from stock > baloney-slice tip to a turn-down tip would help. Changing from a > rubber strap to a metal bar would also help, but I'm only just > starting to think about the geometry and required freedom-of-movement > issues. > > On the bright side, the plane is still in primer so at least I didn't > ruin a nice paint job! > > -Adam Molny > Legacy N181AM 220 hours > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >