X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:55:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm24-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([216.39.63.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6790483 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:41:39 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.39.63.52; envelope-from=skinner3410@sbcglobal.net Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2014 15:41:03 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.242] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2014 15:41:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2014 15:41:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 922417.53403.bm@omp1013.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 80931 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Mar 2014 15:41:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Vzmu5D9XksRs+1j+JzyP5x8kQMgkZQrV9yPAEq1qOUetNmOJHhB0CWDIvS/xaCxFN13DZNFIYuyq4k752GpvYCiNhrmB6dLHY3NKSUa5krHZ0yuqSzUv1gkp4Hptb2IeCB85E5y/XMWpD0tvZjzq62IJXgkclJpx09qK4PFWeL8=; X-YMail-OSG: 7AfTfOgVM1lUtME0UesUindt6MuLJDjBXQURyyqNaAukoUw SWrT75p6hLc184d62DVB4ACpfH9_1LkfLlc8i2noUfjxhMQLQ9KFd6WS_I26 7okMdUDcFBmKdDhRhPxzEFjUdljv21ZDO8CJFcWN_siU4KYP.WVlHzm6sMlm gKtQnG3dyLREFubAG8mCI8VNJEPwkdM0s9lXGSwJJ.iKxzQK72vtbaoRXRZG 8weqVodF6Yniy4XHMsoTkL__S0fBfmG0PReC9EZ4xI5334vl6F_Kjacs5tlx fLw1yjZQPjRcEHBTcNES1XSa1x6BBmChsOGYMYHJ9OSLGoG9obZ_P2fpsFBO af2p3_W0pwi_fDBZM2Q3_UPulPuI1kBLxhYFFt2WbXyFrKz0qJCqCKnb74Hx h4o.J1CvA1VF2hIyvacfldIUKJ5_YnLLruI7MbGkRJ7RQ.jPPH9Zirbb1Q7n KuzORoHDRVqZneu82Tp9Fn8IA5X8djmDS1zar4jbXn_90qgRTeu95pJNmLx6 _5CJmjHzdiFX0nVR0XU9GUY.Lh.gxJXttAKg2pQz11ekjJbQKlKBD2pX4fUS jd4nBXj5jk2WFM1egB_hyfQrFPrRISrPx2QA- Received: from [192.43.65.245] by web181603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:41:03 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,VGhhbmtzIEdhcnkuwqAgRG8geW91IGhhdmUgcGljdHVyZXM_wqAgQXMgeW91IHNhdyBpbiBteSBub3RlIGEgZmV3IG1pbnV0ZXMgYWdvLCBJIGhhdmUgYSBzb2x1dGlvbiwgYnV0IEknbSBzdGlsbCBhIGJpdCBjb25jZXJuZWQgYWJvdXQgdGhlIGFtb3VudCBvZiBjYW50aWxldmVyIHdpdGhvdXQgYWRkaXRpb25hbCBzdXBwb3J0LgrCoArCoAoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb206IEdhcnkgQ2FzZXkgPGNhc2V5LmdhcnlAeWFob28uY29tPgpUbzogbG1sQGxhbmNhaXJvbmxpbmUBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.181.645 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1395416463.26204.YahooMailNeo@web181603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:41:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave & Neva Skinner Reply-To: Dave & Neva Skinner Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Need to move front seats aft on a IV-P X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1071596321-1725499725-1395416463=:26204" --1071596321-1725499725-1395416463=:26204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Gary.=A0 Do you have pictures?=A0 As you saw in my note a few minute= s ago, I have a solution, but I'm still a bit concerned about the amount of= cantilever without additional support.=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=0A=0A_______________= _________________=0AFrom: Gary Casey =0ATo: lml@lanca= ironline.net =0ASent: Friday, March 21, 2014 7:07 AM=0ASubject: [LML] Re: N= eed to move front seats aft on a IV-P=0A=0A=0A=0AOn my ES I fabricated a co= uple of stainless steel brackets from fairly thick sheet metal (forgot how = thick). =A0They are each bolted to the spar carry-through with 2 -3 bolts = =A0the spar itself carries the download, with any upload carried by the bra= ckets. =A0I used -3 bolts and nuts to hold the seat rail to the brackets. = =A0In the front I used aluminum angles with nutplates and long -3 bolts. = =A0Works good and the seats are reasonably easy to get out. =A0I also put 1= -inch phenolic spacers under the front rails to tilt the seats back and giv= e a little more leg room.=0AGary Casey=0A=0A=0AHas anyone with a IV-P found= a good way to move the front seats aft about 3=3D=0A-4 inches?=3DA0 I don'= t need the rear seat leg room, but I could use more in =3D=0Athe front.=3DA= 0 Moving the rails rearward would cantilever them quite a ways =3D=0Abehind= the spar box.=3DA0 I haven't figured out how I would support the rear =3D= =0Aends of the rails. --1071596321-1725499725-1395416463=:26204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Gary.  Do = you have pictures?  As you saw in my note a few minutes ago, I have a = solution, but I'm still a bit concerned about the amount of cantilever with= out additional support.
 
 

From: Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com= >
To: lml@lancaironli= ne.net
Sent: Friday, Ma= rch 21, 2014 7:07 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Need to move front seats aft on a IV-P

On my ES I fabricated a couple of stainless steel brackets from fairly= thick sheet metal (forgot how thick).  They are each bolted to the sp= ar carry-through with 2 -3 bolts  the spar itself carries the download= , with any upload carried by the brackets.  I used -3 bolts and nuts t= o hold the seat rail to the brackets.  In the front I used aluminum an= gles with nutplates and long -3 bolts.  Works good and the seats are r= easonably easy to get out.  I also put 1-inch phenolic spacers under t= he front rails to tilt the seats back and give a little more leg room.
Gary Casey


Has anyone with a= IV-P found a good way to move the front seats aft about 3=3D
-4 inches?=3DA0 I don't need the rear seat leg = room, but I could use more in =3D
= the front.=3DA0 Moving the rails rearward would cantilever them quite a way= s =3D
behind the spar box.=3DA0 I = haven't figured out how I would support the rear =3D
ends o= f the rails.


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