X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:55:02 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm10-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([216.39.63.128] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6790479 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:40:13 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.39.63.128; envelope-from=skinner3410@sbcglobal.net Received: from [216.39.60.176] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2014 15:39:38 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.162] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2014 15:39:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2014 15:39:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 42105.10285.bm@omp1028.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 21510 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Mar 2014 15:39:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; 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Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:39:36 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,VGhlIGZyb250IG9mIHRoZSBzZWF0IHJhaWwgaXMgYXR0YWNoZWQgdG8gdGhlIGZyb250IGNoYW5uZWwgZmxhbmNlIG9mIHRoZSBzcGFyIGJveC7CoCBUaGUgcmVhciBpcyBjYW50aWxldmVyZWQgb3ZlciB0aGUgYmFjayBvZiB0aGUgYm94IGJ1dCBubyBhZGRpdGlvbmFsIHN1cHBvcnRzIChndXNzZXRzKSBhcmUgdW5kZXIgdGhlbSBvdGhlciB0aGFuwqAxLzQiIHggMiIgQWx1bWludW0gc3RyYXBzIHRoYXQgYXJlIHNhbmR3aWNoZWQgYmV0d2VlbiB0aGUgc2VhdCByYWlscyBhbmQgdGhlIHNwYXIgYm94LsKgIFQBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.181.645 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1395416376.14987.YahooMailNeo@web181606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:39:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave & Neva Skinner Reply-To: Dave & Neva Skinner Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Need to move front seats aft on a IV-P X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1387227393-86879029-1395416376=:14987" ---1387227393-86879029-1395416376=:14987 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The front of the seat rail is attached to the front channel flance of the s= par box.=A0 The rear is cantilevered over the back of the box but no additi= onal supports (gussets) are under them other than=A01/4" x 2" Aluminum stra= ps that are sandwiched between the seat rails and the spar box.=A0 The stra= ps run the length of the rails.=A0 I moved the rails back relative to the s= eats by putting straps above the rails, and it looks like it is going to be= OK with no additional support.=A0 It's cantilevered quite a ways behind th= e spar now, but it feels pretty solid.=0A=A0=0AI had the electric boost pum= p=A0overhauled in Wisconsin.=A0 I think it was about $400, which was by far= the cheapest I found.=A0 They put the wrong resister in the first time for= the low boost, so we had to send it back once.=A0 I think this is the firs= t IV-P pump they had seen.=A0 =0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=0A=0A________________________= ________=0AFrom: PETER WILLIAMS =0ATo: lml@la= ncaironline.net =0ASent: Friday, March 21, 2014 7:07 AM=0ASubject: [LML] Re= : Need to move front seats aft on a IV-P=0A=0A=0A=0Adave=0A=0Aremove the se= at and see how it is attached.=0A=0Asome seats were attached only to the sp= ar; but the kits called for a cantilever to the rear.=0Ayou may not have th= e cantilever; although, if i remember correctly, the previous user, was ove= r six feet tall.=0A=0Apossible:=0A=0A1. increase cantilever=0A2. move seat = rail attachments=0A3. thinner seat cushions (use temprafoam)=0A=0Agood luck= =0A=0Ahow did you make out with the fuel pump issue?=0A=0Apeter=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A________________________________=0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ADate: Thu= , 20 Mar 2014 07:54:09 -0400=0AFrom: skinner3410@sbcglobal.net=0ASubject: [= LML] Need to move front seats aft on a IV-P=0A=0A=0AHas anyone with a IV-P = found a good way to move the front seats aft about 3-4 inches?=A0 I don't n= eed the rear seat leg room, but I could use more in the front.=A0 Moving th= e rails rearward would cantilever them quite a ways behind the spar box.=A0= I haven't figured out how I would support the rear ends of the rails.=0A= =A0=0ADave Skinner=0A845CM ---1387227393-86879029-1395416376=:14987 Content-Type: text/html; 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The front of the seat rail is attached to the front = channel flance of the spar box.  The rear is cantilevered over the bac= k of the box but no additional supports (gussets) are under them other than=  1/4" x 2" Aluminum straps that are sandwiched between the seat rails = and the spar box.  The straps run the length of the rails.  I mov= ed the rails back relative to the seats by putting straps above the rails, = and it looks like it is going to be OK with no additional support.  It= 's cantilevered quite a ways behind the spar now, but it feels pretty solid= .
 
I had the electric b= oost pump overhauled in Wisconsin.  I think it was about $400, wh= ich was by far the cheapest I found.  They put the wrong resister in t= he first time for the low boost, so we had to send it back once.  I th= ink this is the first IV-P pump they had seen. 
 
 

From: PETER WILLIAMS <peterpawaviation= @hotmail.com>
To: lml= @lancaironline.net
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 7:07 AM
Su= bject: [LML] Re: Need to move front seats aft on a IV-P

dave

remove the seat and see ho= w it is attached.

some seats were attached only to the spar; but the= kits called for a cantilever to the rear.
you may not have the cantilev= er; although, if i remember correctly, the previous user, was over six feet= tall.

possible:

1. increase cantilever
2. move seat rail = attachments
3. thinner seat cushions (use temprafoam)

good luck
how did you make out with the fuel pump issue?

peter

To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Thu, 20= Mar 2014 07:54:09 -0400
From: skinner3410@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [LM= L] Need to move front seats aft on a IV-P

Has anyone with a IV-P found a good way to move the front seats = aft about 3-4 inches?  I don't need the rear seat leg room, but I coul= d use more in the front.  Moving the rails rearward would cantilever t= hem quite a ways behind the spar box.  I haven't figured out how I wou= ld support the rear ends of the rails.
 
Dave Skinner
= 845CM


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