X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:18:07 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com ([17.158.58.247] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTP id 6665618 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 09:26:33 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.158.58.247; envelope-from=gw5@me.com Received: from [192.168.0.12] (cpe-071-077-249-052.ec.res.rr.com [71.77.249.52]) by nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MYS00MEO2QVLG40@nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 14:25:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-02_05:2014-01-01,2014-01-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=3 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1401020064 From: George Wehrung Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CF8DA782-41AA-4E8E-A2F4-5B927344921A" X-Original-Message-id: <3D14D54B-72E1-4DF6-BBBE-683A780F04B5@me.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Wing support for ES when jacking the main landing gear X-Original-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 09:25:43 -0500 References: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) --Apple-Mail=_CF8DA782-41AA-4E8E-A2F4-5B927344921A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 No pics. I did not undo the bolts retaining the legs and they are still = safety wired. But I could see movement in the socket ever so slightly = but that movement translates to a large movement at the gear. So I think a shim kit will be necessary. On Jan 2, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Gordon Porter = wrote: > Yikes!!! > =20 > The gear legs should be real snug in the attach brackets. The bolt = should be safety wired as well. Does it look like it has been wiggling = for a while? Are the holes elongated at all? I have not seen the shim = kit, but from what I have read, it is thin shims to really snug up the = leg in the bracket, not to take up 3/16=94 of play. > =20 > Have any pics to post?? > =20 > Good luck. Maybe Ron will chime in with some ideas. > =20 > Gordon > =20 > ES N144GP > =20 > Gordon H. Porter, Managing Partner > Trusted Wealth Advisors, LLP > 1501 E. Market St York, PA 17403 > Registered Principal, Cambridge Investment Research > =20 > 800-290-2632 717-757-4908 > Fax 717-843-0108 > =20 > GHP@TrustedWealthAdvisors.com > =20 > Securities offered through Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.. Member = FINRA/SIPC. Advisory Services offered through Cambridge Investment = Research Advisors, Inc., a Registered Investment Advisor. Tax services = are offered by Trusted Wealth Advisors LLP. Trusted Wealth Advisors and = the Cambridge Investment Research companies are unaffiliated entities. >=20 > Trading instructions sent via e-mail may not be honored. Please call = our office, or Cambridge Investment Research trading desk at = 800-756-8115, for all buy/sell orders. Please be advised that = communications regarding trades in your account are for informational = purposes only. You should continue to rely on confirmations and = statements received from the custodian(s) of your assets. The text of = this communication is confidential, and use by any person who is not the = intended recipient is prohibited. Any person who receives this = communication in error is requested to immediately destroy the text of = this communication without copying or further dissemination. Your = cooperation is appreciated. > =20 > =20 > From: George Wehrung [mailto:gw5@me.com]=20 > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 7:35 AM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Wing support for ES when jacking the main = landing gear > =20 > Got the plane jacked up ok. Found that on the. Right side I had 3/16" = vertical movement of the landing gear leg. About same on other side.=20 > =20 > Is this ok? The shimmy was so bad I sheared off one of the front = fairing side retaining screws.=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Jan 1, 2014, at 14:34, Ron Galbraith wrote: >=20 > If you have removable fairings for the main gear attach points, you = can use a standard floor jack or AC jack at the gear attach point. Just = use a piece of wood or something solid for support. =20 > =20 > Ron >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Jan 1, 2014, at 9:23 AM, George Wehrung wrote: >=20 > All, > =20 > Got a pretty shimmy tonight, enough to loosen the front wheel fairings = screws. Also while pushing her back into the hangar I could hear a = rubbing sound on the left main wheel, but only pulling forward; not = backing. So now its time to jack up the main gear and see whats going = on. > =20 > I tried to search the archives to see how best to support the wings. = No luck. > =20 > I am going to purchase a floor jack and lift the main gear one at a = time using the Lancair adapter. Then put a saw horse with carpet and = foam to hold the wing while I check the main gear for play in the legs. = I suspect I may need shims or be having wheel bearing problems. =20 > =20 > I remember reading but I don=92t recall where to put the support under = the wing. Unfortunately, I don=92t have jackpoints. > =20 > Any advice? Thank you > =20 > George > =20 > =20 > On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:25 PM, marv@lancair.net wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Posted for Clark Baker : >=20 > > Hi Colyn, > > I played around with the power supplies and just ended up using a = resistor. > > Low tech and I'm the last person to give advice in this area, but it = was a > > fun project, it works well, and I learned something. Sounds like > > homebuilding! > >=20 > > Notice my engineering design process for the heat sinking. I started = it, > > but quickly got way over my head. So, just ended up doing actual = testing > > of the thermal properties. 0.35 amps and 0.70 amps (apprx) for the = green > > and red, respectively and SUPER bright (did the runway test against = a > > Whelen certified setup and various long distances and perceived = brightness) > >=20 > >FWIW (not much) > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Colyn Case = wrote: > >=20 > >> I'm interested in what you used for filters too Pete. > >> ...for my home made de-ice lights with super noisy power supplies. > >> > >> On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Gordon Porter wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for the clue, Pete! Yes, all in one box, but I will = re-visit the > >> wiring instructions for the LED lights to make sure what I did was = kosher. > >> > >> What filters did you use? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Gordon > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: pete@leapfrogventures.com [mailto:pete@leapfrogventures.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:13 AM > >> To: Gordon Porter; lml@lancaironline.net; randylsnarr@yahoo.com > >> Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation > >> > >> I had similar issues with LED position lights that I had built = myself. > >> Noise only on the lower frequencies. It turned out the problem was = on the > >> lines between the LED power supply and the LEDs. Because of this = adding > >> filters to the power supply lines to the lights did nothing. I = ended up > >> adding noise filters on the lines going to the LEDs and the problem = went > >> away. This was easy because mine was a home-made setup. I'm = guessing your > >> power supply and LEDs are all contained in one sealed package. > >> > >> Pete > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Gordon Porter [mailto:ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com] > >> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:20 AM > >> To: lml@lancaironline.net > >> Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation > >> > >> Hi Randy. > >> > >> I have been tracking down a similar issue. Thought I had it = isolated to > >> one > >> or both of my AFS EFIS'. Installed a pair of capacitance filters = at the > >> advice of Aerotronics... jury still out. > >> > >> My reception issue was "like breaking squelch" but only happened on = the low > >> end freqs - 118-121 or so, on both radios, each on separate = antennae. Very > >> consistent and repeatable. > >> > >> I have Aeroleds for landing and both wing tip recognition = lights...not the > >> strobes, just wing tip recognition lights. Aerosun, I think the = model is. > >> > >> What freqs are you having issues on?? > >> > >> Very frustrating. > >> > >> Gordon > >> > >> ES N144GP > >> > >> > >> Gordon H. Porter > >> Managing Partner > >> Trusted Wealth Advisors, LLP > >> Registered Principal, Cambridge Investment Research, Inc. > >> > >> 800-290-2632 717-757-4908 fax 717-843-0180 > >> > >> GHP@TrustedWealthAdvisors.com > >> > >> Securities offered through Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.. = Member > >> FINRA/SIPC. Advisory Services offered through Cambridge Investment = Research > >> Advisors, Inc., a Registered Investment Advisor. Tax services are = offered > >> by > >> Trusted Wealth Advisors LLP. Trusted Wealth Advisors and the = Cambridge > >> Investment Research companies are unaffiliated entities. > >> Trading instructions sent via e-mail may not be honored. Please = call our > >> office, or Cambridge Investment Research trading desk at = 800-756-8115 , > >> for > >> all buy/sell orders. Please be advised that communications = regarding > >> trades > >> in your account are for informational purposes only. You should = continue > >> to > >> rely on confirmations and statements received from the > >> custodian(s) of your assets. The text of this communication is > >> confidential, and use by any person who is not the intended = recipient is > >> prohibited. Any person who receives this communication in error is > >> requested to immediately destroy the text of this communication = without > >> copying or further dissemination. Your cooperation is appreciated. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: randylsnarr@yahoo.com [mailto:randylsnarr@yahoo.com] > >> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 8:05 AM > >> To: lml@lancaironline.net > >> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Landing light recommendation > >> > >> Joe , do you get any interference in your radios with these lights? > >> I installed similar lights a year ago and it causes reception = issues at > >> times on some frequencies. Curios if you experienced the same = issue... > >> I would also be interested if anyone else has any suggestions on = how to > >> resolve this.. > >> Thx! > >> Randy Snarr > >> 235/320 > >> N694RS > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> For archives and unsub > >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > >> > >> > >> -- > >> For archives and unsub > >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > >> > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > Clark Baker > >=20 > > mobile: +44 7557 804 630 > >=20 > > bakercdb@gmail.com >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --Apple-Mail=_CF8DA782-41AA-4E8E-A2F4-5B927344921A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 No = pics. I did not undo the bolts retaining the legs and they are still = safety wired.  But I could see movement in the socket ever so = slightly but that movement translates to a large movement at the = gear.

So I think a shim kit will be = necessary.






On Jan 2, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Gordon Porter = <GHP@TrustedWealthAdvisors.co= m> wrote:

Yikes!!!
 
The gear legs should be real snug in the attach = brackets.  The bolt should be safety wired as well.  Does it = look like it has been wiggling for a while? Are the holes elongated at = all?   I have not seen the shim kit, but from what I have = read, it is thin shims to really snug up the leg in the bracket, not to = take up 3/16=94 of play.
 
Have any pics to post??
 
Good luck.  Maybe Ron will chime in with some = ideas.
 
Gordon
 
ES N144GP
 
Gordon H. Porter, Managing Partner
Trusted Wealth Advisors, = LLP
1501 E. Market St  York, PA = 17403
Registered Principal, Cambridge Investment = Research
 
800-290-2632  717-757-4908
Fax = 717-843-0108
 
 

Securities offered through Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.. = Member FINRA/SIPC. Advisory Services offered through Cambridge = Investment Research Advisors, Inc., a Registered Investment Advisor. Tax = services are offered by Trusted Wealth Advisors LLP. Trusted Wealth = Advisors and the Cambridge Investment Research companies are = unaffiliated entities.

Trading instructions sent via e-mail may not be honored.  = Please call our office, or Cambridge Investment Research trading desk at = 800-756-8115, for all buy/sell orders.  Please be advised that = communications regarding trades in your account are for informational = purposes only.  You should continue to rely on confirmations and = statements received from the custodian(s) of your assets.  The text = of this communication is confidential, and use by any person who is not = the intended recipient is prohibited.  Any person who receives this = communication in error is requested to immediately destroy the text of = this communication without copying or further dissemination.  Your = cooperation is appreciated.
 
 
From: George Wehrung [mailto:gw5@me.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 = 7:35 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subj= ect: Re: [LML] Re: = Wing support for ES when jacking the main landing = gear
 
Got = the plane jacked up ok. Found that on the. Right side I had 3/16" = vertical movement of the landing gear leg. About same on other = side. 
 
Is = this ok?  The shimmy was so bad I sheared off one of the front = fairing side retaining screws. 
 
 

Sent from my = iPhone


On Jan 1, 2014, at 14:34, Ron Galbraith <cfi@instructor.net> = wrote:

If you have = removable fairings for the main gear attach points, you can use a = standard floor jack or AC jack at the gear attach point.  Just use = a piece of wood or something solid for support. =  
 
Ron

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 1, 2014, at 9:23 AM, = George Wehrung <gw5@me.com> = wrote:

All,
 
Got a = pretty shimmy tonight, enough to loosen the front wheel fairings screws. =  Also while pushing her back into the hangar I could hear a rubbing = sound on the left main wheel, but only pulling forward; not backing. =  So now its time to jack up the main gear and see whats going = on.
 
I = tried to search the archives to see how best to support the wings. =  No luck.
 
I am = going to purchase a floor jack and lift the main gear one at a time = using the Lancair adapter.  Then put a saw horse with carpet and = foam to hold the wing while I check the main gear for play in the legs. =  I suspect I may need shims or be having wheel bearing problems. =  
 
I = remember reading but I don=92t recall where to put the support under the = wing.  Unfortunately, I don=92t have = jackpoints.
 
Any = advice?  Thank you
 
George
 
 
On = Nov 26, 2013, at 1:25 PM, marv@lancair.net wrote:
=



Posted for Clark Baker <bakercdb@gmail.com>:

> Hi = Colyn,
> I played around with the power supplies and just ended up = using a resistor.
> Low tech and I'm the last person to give = advice in this area, but it was a
> fun project, it works well, = and I learned something.  Sounds like
> = homebuilding!
> 
> Notice my = engineering design process for the heat sinking. I started it,
> = but quickly got way over my head.  So, just ended up doing = actual testing
> of the thermal properties.  0.35 amps = and 0.70 amps (apprx) for the green
> and red, respectively and = SUPER bright (did the runway test against a
> Whelen certified = setup and various long distances and perceived brightness)
> 
>FWIW (not = much)
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 26, = 2013 at 3:38 PM, Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> I'm interested = in what you used for filters too Pete.
>> ...for my home made = de-ice lights with super noisy power supplies.
>>
>> = On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Gordon Porter = wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the clue, = Pete!  Yes, all in one box, but I will re-visit = the
>> wiring instructions for the LED lights to make sure what = I did was kosher.
>>
>> What filters did you = use?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> = Gordon
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original = Message-----
>> From: pete@leapfrogventures.com [mailto:pete@leapfrogventures.com]
>> Sent: = Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:13 AM
>> To: Gordon Porter; lml@lancaironline.net; randylsnarr@yahoo.com
>> = Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light = recommendation
>>
>> I had similar issues with LED = position lights that I had built myself.
>> Noise only on the = lower frequencies.  It turned out the problem was on = the
>> lines between the LED power supply and the = LEDs.  Because of this adding
>> filters to the power = supply lines to the lights did nothing.  I ended = up
>> adding noise filters on the lines going to the LEDs and = the problem went
>> away.  This was easy because mine = was a home-made setup.  I'm guessing your
>> power = supply and LEDs are all contained in one sealed = package.
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> = -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gordon Porter [mailto:ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com]
>> Sent: = Monday, November 25, 2013 10:20 AM
>> To: lml@lancaironline.net
>> = Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Landing light = recommendation
>>
>> Hi Randy.
>>
>> = I have been tracking down a similar issue.  Thought I had it = isolated to
>> one
>> or both of my AFS = EFIS'.  Installed a pair of capacitance filters at = the
>> advice of Aerotronics... jury still = out.
>>
>> My reception issue was "like breaking = squelch" but only happened on the low
>> end freqs - 118-121 or = so, on both radios, each on separate = antennae.  Very
>> consistent and = repeatable.
>>
>> I have Aeroleds for landing and both = wing tip recognition lights...not the
>> strobes, just wing tip = recognition lights.  Aerosun, I think the model = is.
>>
>> What freqs are you having issues = on??
>>
>> Very frustrating.
>>
>> = Gordon
>>
>> ES = N144GP
>>
>>
>> Gordon H. Porter
>> = Managing Partner
>> Trusted Wealth Advisors, LLP
>> = Registered Principal, Cambridge Investment Research, = Inc.
>>
>> = 800-290-2632  717-757-4908  fax = 717-843-0180
>>
>> GHP@TrustedWealthAdvisors.com
>>
>> = Securities offered through Cambridge Investment Research, Inc.. = Member
>> FINRA/SIPC. Advisory Services offered through = Cambridge Investment Research
>> Advisors, Inc., a Registered = Investment Advisor. Tax services are offered
>> by
>> = Trusted Wealth Advisors LLP. Trusted Wealth Advisors and the = Cambridge
>> Investment Research companies are unaffiliated = entities.
>> Trading instructions sent via e-mail may not be = honored.  Please call our
>> office, or Cambridge = Investment Research trading desk at 800-756-8115 ,
>> = for
>> all buy/sell orders.  Please be advised that = communications regarding
>> trades
>> in your account = are for informational purposes only.  You should = continue
>> to
>> rely on confirmations and statements = received from the
>> custodian(s) of your = assets.  The text of this communication is
>> = confidential, and use by any person who is not the intended recipient = is
>> prohibited.  Any person who receives this = communication in error is
>> requested to immediately destroy = the text of this communication without
>> copying or further = dissemination.  Your cooperation is = appreciated.
>>
>> -----Original = Message-----
>> From: randylsnarr@yahoo.com [mailto:randylsnarr@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Monday, = November 25, 2013 8:05 AM
>> To: lml@lancaironline.net
>> = Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Landing light = recommendation
>>
>> Joe , do you get any interference = in your radios with these lights?
>> I installed similar lights = a year ago and it causes reception issues at
>> times on some = frequencies.  Curios if you experienced the same = issue...
>> I would also be interested if anyone else has any = suggestions on how to
>> resolve this..
>> = Thx!
>> Randy Snarr
>> 235/320
>> = N694RS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> = --
>> For archives and unsub
>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html
&g= t;>
>>
>> --
>> For archives and = unsub
>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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