X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [207.46.163.239] (HELO na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6570591 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:36:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.46.163.239; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from BLUPR07MB403.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.27.146) by BLUPR07MB401.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.27.141) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.810.5; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:35:35 +0000 Received: from BLUPR07MB403.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.3.130]) by BLUPR07MB403.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.3.130]) with mapi id 15.00.0810.005; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:35:35 +0000 From: Robert R Pastusek To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Plans for concrete block, floor jack & motorized Tow Bar Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Plans for concrete block, floor jack & motorized Tow Bar Thread-Index: AQHO1Zz7bZ5vTUrfOEaevQreNDwsLpoNm6Yw Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:35:34 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [70.192.192.151] x-forefront-prvs: 00159D1518 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(377454003)(24454002)(13464003)(189002)(199002)(74662001)(74366001)(31966008)(47446002)(16236675002)(74502001)(83072001)(19580395003)(19580405001)(83322001)(81542001)(79102001)(77982001)(59766001)(54316002)(76482001)(56776001)(65816001)(80022001)(66066001)(63696002)(76576001)(76796001)(76786001)(77096001)(56816003)(69226001)(85306002)(19300405004)(80976001)(81342001)(81686001)(81816001)(74706001)(74316001)(15975445006)(15202345003)(53806001)(54356001)(47736001)(47976001)(51856001)(46102001)(33646001)(4396001)(50986001)(74876001)(49866001)(87266001)(24736002);DIR:OUT;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:BLUPR07MB401;H:BLUPR07MB403.namprd07.prod.outlook.com;CLIP:70.192.192.151;FPR:;RD:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_a02d02c095bd428c9e1b3168accd7007BLUPR07MB403namprd07pro_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: htii.com --_000_a02d02c095bd428c9e1b3168accd7007BLUPR07MB403namprd07pro_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The jack points on an IV are attached to the front of the main spar box. Th= ere is no area on the bottom of the fuselage forward of the spar box that c= an take the weight of a "full up" airplane. Moving the jack points forward = would require adding weight to reinforce them... My opinion... BOB On my L IV the jack points are slightly forward of the CG. Maybe 10 or 15 = lbs on the rear jack stand. It most certainly varies with the individual a/c. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Wolfgang > wrote: I have often wondered why the main jack points are aft of the CG requiring = weight on the tail for jacking. Why not just move the jack points forward ? Wolfgang ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Wehrung" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:08 AM Subject: Plans for concrete block, floor jack & motorized Tow Bar Does anyone have the plans/materials specs on how to build the rolling buck= et of cement for the tail stand? I had ran across it in the plans and can't remember where they are. I think= I should be able to get the needed supplies at Lowes. Also Looking for recommendations on a floor jack for the ES. It seems that= many of the automotive ones are too big or cumbersome to get under the mai= n wheels. I don't know about jacking the nose up? How is that done. I wa= s told you can lift from under the firewall. Lastly, is there an affordable motorized tow bar that works with the nose w= heel fairing for the ES. Thanks all. -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --_000_a02d02c095bd428c9e1b3168accd7007BLUPR07MB403namprd07pro_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The jack points on an IV are attached to the front = of the main spar box. There is no area on the bottom of the fuselage forward of the spar box that can take the weight of a “full up”= ; airplane. Moving the jack points forward would require adding weight to r= einforce them…

My opinion…


BOB<= o:p>

 

On my L IV the jack points are slightly forward of t= he CG.  Maybe 10 or 15 lbs on the rear jack stand.

It most certainly varies with the individual a/c.

 

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Wolfgang <Wolfgang@micom.net>= ; wrote:

I have often wondered why the main jack points are a= ft of the CG requiring weight on the tail for jacking.
Why not just move the jack points forward ?

Wolfgang

----- Original Message ----- From: "George Wehrung" <gw5@me.com>
To: <lml@lanc= aironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:08 AM
Subject: Plans for concrete block, floor jack & motorized Tow Bar


Does anyone have the plans/materials specs on how to build the rolling buck= et of cement for the tail stand?

I had ran across it in the plans and can’t remember where they are. I= think I should be able to get the needed supplies at Lowes.

Also Looking for recommendations on a floor jack for the ES.  It seems= that many of the automotive ones are too big or cumbersome to get under th= e main wheels.  I don’t know about jacking the nose up?  Ho= w is that done.  I was told you can lift from under the firewall.

Lastly, is there an affordable motorized tow bar that works with the nose w= heel fairing for the ES.

Thanks all.


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