Hello Craig
I am surprised about your stats, as I recall fuel flow values between 19 and 22gph were the area’s where the engine gets really beaten up? I might be wrong, but on my last flight I tried just to see where it peaks (TIT) and was actually surprised that it peaked at a lower TIT than before.
In other words, if you use ‘your TIT temp’ as your gauge than this might be off as it does change with altitude and OAT.
Now I am still not very comfortable looking for peak (even going from the lean side) but it will get your surprised sometimes. I usually go smooth and fast (within 4 secs) and then I just know it was higher, but by how much I do not really know as I do not want to be in the red box too long.
Now in the past I was leaning on a much smaller power setting like 60%, and when I knew and was less than 80% LOP I just bumped the throttle back to 75%, but I am not even sure if this is the right or perhaps totally wrong way.
But some of the values in your chart looks like dangerous territory….I just hope I am wrong with my assumption.
So my questions:
Were you always leaning and if so did you do this at that power setting?
Did you lean on TIT or first/last cylinder? (depending from which side you lean)
From the lean side or rich side?
== Ronald (>400hours IVP, n45HL, the rest I do not count lol)
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of bronnenmeier@GROBSYSTEMS.COM
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:14 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: IV-P Recent Trip - more power settings
Hello Craig,
Thank you very much for your picture. I got a lot of information out of it and spent quite some time looking at it – you can feed me a lot more of these before I will get tired of it…
I kept a log of my power settings on different flights for the last year and I found one setting that is very similar to yours – unfortunately I didn’t get that good of a tailwind
My fuel flow shows a little less – may be this is a calibration problem? My TAS shows higher – but mine comes from the bezel and is influenced by friction heating and air compression – it would make me very happy if someone on the list could give me a correction factor for my speeds/conditions.
When I put my scribbled notes in a spread sheet and sorted it to altitude and OAT I found something in my opinion very interesting: on the lower altitudes the OAT has very little influence on the speed. At the higher altitudes (>=FL180) you can clearly see how the airspeed decreases with increasing OAT because I need to run the engine at lower power settings to get similar TIT and CHT.
On low altitudes (<FL120) it seems I can feed my engine a lot more fuel without significant influence on the CHT (may be because of my plenum) - The high power setting at FL110 was more than 1.5 years ago – I kept it in there for reference and I won’t do this again
On some warm/humid days I just have the feeling my engine doesn’t like it at altitudes higher than FL190. I don’t like higher than FL230 because I don’t have winglets and it doesn’t feel that firm anymore
Info for the chart: TIT is my TIT2 - it is usually 40F warmer, TIT max is around 1720, warmest CHT is always #2 and CHT#1 comes close after it, the TAS comes from the bezel and would need to be corrected, all settings were in cruise for at least 45 min or so – sometimes up to 2 to 3 hours.
Ralf
Alt. | OAT | MAP | RPM | Fuel flow | TIT | CHT | IAS | TAS | % HP |
ft | F | inHG | 1/min | GPH | F | F | kts | kts | |
10 | 40 | 29.9 | 2,500 | 17.0 | 1,570 | 310 | 212 | 240 | 69% |
10 | 45 | 32.2 | 2,500 | 18.1 | 1,600 | 322 | 208 | 248 | 73% |
10 | 54 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 17.9 | 1,620 | 344 | 205 | 246 | 73% |
11 | 35 | 33.8 | 2,500 | 20.8 | 1,690 | 356 | 220 | 260 | 84% |
11 | 53 | 34.0 | 2,500 | 18.6 | 1,610 | 351 | 204 | 249 | 75% |
12 | 34 | 32.3 | 2,500 | 17.9 | 1,590 | 318 | 205 | 251 | 73% |
12 | 36 | 32.6 | 2,500 | 18.6 | 1,620 | 330 | 209 | 255 | 75% |
12 | 47 | 32.3 | 2,500 | 17.9 | 1,610 | 344 | 203 | 251 | 73% |
12 | 49 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 18.1 | 1,610 | 340 | 204 | 252 | 73% |
16 | 40 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 17.8 | 1,620 | 366 | 199 | 264 | 72% |
18 | 13 | 34.0 | 2,500 | 19.1 | 1,630 | 346 | 205 | 278 | 77% |
18 | 28 | 32.3 | 2,500 | 18.0 | 1,620 | 362 | 194 | 265 | 73% |
19 | 21 | 33.1 | 2,500 | 18.2 | 1,625 | 360 | 195 | 275 | 74% |
19 | 26 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 17.9 | 1,620 | 366 | 196 | 276 | 73% |
20 | 20 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 17.8 | 1,625 | 366 | 194 | 278 | 72% |
20 | 20 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 18.1 | 1,625 | 362 | 194 | 278 | 73% |
20 | 21 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 17.9 | 1,620 | 368 | 190 | 274 | 73% |
20 | 32 | 32.3 | 2,500 | 17.3 | 1,620 | 377 | 186 | 270 | 70% |
21 | 10 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 17.9 | 1,625 | 360 | 192 | 278 | 72% |
21 | 18 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 17.7 | 1,620 | 370 | 191 | 280 | 72% |
22 | 22 | 31.9 | 2,500 | 16.9 | 1,620 | 380 | 182 | 272 | 69% |
23 | 0 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 17.7 | 1,620 | 368 | 190 | 284 | 72% |
23 | 0 | 32.4 | 2,500 | 17.8 | 1,620 | 373 | 188 | 282 | 72% |
23 | 13 | 32.3 | 2,500 | 17.1 | 1,630 | 379 | 185 | 280 | 69% |
23 | 20 | 31.9 | 2,500 | 16.3 | 1,600 | 380 | 179 | 274 | 66% |
From: marv@lancair.net [mailto:marv@lancair.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:47 PM
To: lml
Subject: Re: IV-P Recent Trip
Posted for Craig Berland <cberland@systems3.net>:
> I took this picture last Friday just to record the great tailwind.
> With the recent LOP talk, Oil Temp, etc….I thought some might find this
>interesting.
> I am LOP and from previous tests, about 8 kts slow of ROP.
> Craig Berland
> N7VG
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