X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:02:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm48-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.87.228] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6411694 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:33:36 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.195.87.228; envelope-from=mattinlosangeles@yahoo.com Received: from [98.137.12.55] by nm48.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2013 22:33:00 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.201] by tm15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2013 22:32:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2013 22:32:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 737993.87821.bm@smtp212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: JEhfH8kVM1mZFruWrrQz4.bTjjMhb0hFMrqSdfhsBCwuOx9 jB3DGFeL0G03aZfGLUtMlcEGNxy1hZs0rsKUWpmUm8MrhtUf_hj0KMm3SF8I Na9ABfhuvYTgP5LWfJ33_oCDzP7ZWB4ztedH46_vmNKVuQQI3H55jncwn6w. Z2tdRVT8ZShPL__OXqrRgRFPCjWmW_iY9p9NT8MC8OHMcq.LMG.T24Vz8pcj V9EJRZ0hfcVg487hnLY56FjBLuLq.S_.MEXi2BXIUFy2SPLOxLO7jjveSEuw vc76K4myi_pd.8fcAlJ.9ALxWAsjieDw8ydKhtVq3AD6xI8LwDeYxOkOsvRr ZOfb5Y1WSDwkdJDEcFciHP8mIpKY4dScvwXVHFDC9lUpTbOpe6D_Py728vF4 xnpEIxncZzb4yaglhAKHEU1m6tqpoZ5i1Eo95zZPktfBdrgVXHczR3.pCIJz vMT0U3U0dqxIy_e2iXCo3cEzz2DY6P7IBry.QU.7T5XfN0sjyQIHyK1v6dIg 314aYCoq_uxW2zjmEwxk.cMg8.KmpceqMMjt9sLOghJIAPmGMqxdOms.fC0z m.PT0aJ5LtSBD3jexpNlXgh.SmVd9BlESxpy5FrU3VNWOcCEwIS2hr7woArf XPB2B.xqB0SJL_a9VTUEoQUXAfjYIGgP4ROpaIvFbf7MTi_bgWq6MgBLfFwt piaknKhVGH3E.Z31.pw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: qSoeC7GswBDtLKiCbjlydJsHEudRg9StIzMfLuM- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.1.123] (mattinlosangeles@76.9.77.102 with ) by smtp212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Aug 2013 15:32:59 -0700 PDT References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-A7BD6F08-E3D6-4C24-9618-89BE75491193 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-Message-Id: <5241E0AC-37FD-4FED-869A-857541961EF1@yahoo.com> X-Original-Cc: "lml@lancaironline.net" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B350) From: Matt Subject: Re: [LML] Flaps on take-off? X-Original-Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 15:32:59 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List --Apple-Mail-A7BD6F08-E3D6-4C24-9618-89BE75491193 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I never use flaps on take off in my 360. If the runway is short to require t= hem I would probably not use that runway.=20 I don't use them because making trim changes close to the ground isn't what I= want to be doing. If I skip the flaps I get to skip one more distraction at= that critical point in the flight. I set my trim for climb and don't mess w= ith it till 1000 agl or higher.=20 Matt Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Dico Reijers wrote: > Hi All, >=20 > I am wondering how many people use flaps on take off with the IVP? I was t= old to use about 15 degrees of flaps. I've also discovered that I don't l= ike retracting the flaps unless the IAS is about 135knots IAS. No real reas= on other than I notice that you don't really feel the retraction as much as y= ou do at the lower speeds. >=20 > So I guess I am wondering, if you only have a couple people on board (or e= ven a full load with lots of runway), do you use flaps? >=20 > -Dico >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Regards, >=20 > Dico Reijers >=20 > InternetWorks Ltd. > 300 University Avenue > Charlottetown > PE, C1A 4M4 >=20 > 902-892-4671 (T) > 888-368-9484 (F) >=20 > www.internetworks.ca > www.apartmentspei.com --Apple-Mail-A7BD6F08-E3D6-4C24-9618-89BE75491193 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I never use flaps on take off in my 36= 0. If the runway is short to require them I would probably not use that runw= ay.

I don't use them because making trim chan= ges close to the ground isn't what I want to be doing. If I skip the flaps I= get to skip one more distraction at that critical point in the flight. I se= t my trim for climb and don't mess with it till 1000 agl or higher.

Matt

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On Aug 9= , 2013, at 12:30 PM, Dico Reijers <dico@internetworks.ca> wrote:

Hi All,

I am wondering how many people use flaps on take off w= ith the IVP? I was told to use about 15 degrees of flaps. &= nbsp; I've also discovered that I don't like retracting the flaps unless the= IAS is about 135knots IAS. No real reason other than I notice that yo= u don't really feel the retraction as much as you do at the lower speeds.
So I guess I am wondering, if you only have a couple people on board (or= even a full load with lots of runway), do you use flaps?

-Dico

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Dico Reijers

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