X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:30:52 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc3-s11.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.149] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6357543 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 22:08:23 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.190.149; envelope-from=peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Received: from BAY152-W63 ([65.54.190.187]) by bay0-omc3-s11.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 1 Jul 2013 19:07:39 -0700 X-TMN: [bpFhWAIAdLGgZqSRvlDdqStaCeYPyycU] X-Originating-Email: [peterpawaviation@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c815f1b1-474d-436b-88e0-ee9fd606e1a2_" From: PETER WILLIAMS X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Taxiing at OSH X-Original-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:07:40 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2013 02:07:39.0731 (UTC) FILETIME=[EDE8B230:01CE76C8] --_c815f1b1-474d-436b-88e0-ee9fd606e1a2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI THERE put a sign in your window "BASLER" and you can get to their ramp mostly on = the hard surface. you may even be still able to reserve a spot on their ram= p. when we would go to OSH in the 310 or the 340 we would do that and then par= k right by the taxiway (by preference) they will want you to get off the runway as soon as you land=3B=20 there is of course=2C THE WORD NO. just don't go off the hard surface. turn= the engine off and go talk to them. the truth is that the previous weather is key. if it has been dry for a wee= k or two=2C then the ground will be firm to hard.ok rain near event time leaves wet spots and mush to taxi through. not so goo= d just taxi slowly=2C very slowly.=20 a final thought is go out and measure the distance between your prop tip an= d the hard surface. use those inches as a guide to viewing the path in fron= t of you. when you turn in near Ripon you have the choice of two altitudes=3B take th= e high one=3B it is for the faster airplanes and war birds. it helps until = they merge the two for landing. the worst i ever had was when they still were landing side by side=2C with = either long or short. you are not supposed to speak=2C but i did twice=2C a= s i was turning base to final i said i am a Cessna 310 and you gotta make r= oom for me. then again on final. well=2C there was a homebuilt to my left and a small high wing in front of me doing= about 50 knots. they started yelling at him to speed up...to no avail. i w= as too slow to turn. i was at about 100 feet above the runway=2C i dared no= t go under him and to my left and below was the home built. i just kept com= ing back on the power=2C the plane stalled and broke to the right and then = to the left as i came back on power and it set down as pretty as pudding.=20 just instinctive=3B if i had thought about it=2C i would have been in troub= le. never heard the stall warning=2C too busy flying.=20 five=2C yes five FAA controllers=2C on three occasions=2C came over to "spe= ak to the pilot" funny=2C it never occurred ot me to complain=2C well the next year they changes the system to three spots on the runway=3B long = middle and short. different colors and shapes. wouldn't want to do that with my 4P. COULDN'T Peter > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Date: Mon=2C 1 Jul 2013 08:01:05 -0400 > From: weinsweigd@gmail.com > Subject: [LML] Taxiing at OSH >=20 > Anyone have advice on how to avoid or at least minimize taxiing on the gr= ass after landing at Airventure. The last time I flew my Propjet to OSH a = few years ago they quickly put me on the grass despite my gesturing objecti= ons which made me very nervous with the prop clearance and bumps. I underst= and that Joe Bartels bent his engine mount taxiing on rough grass. I prefe= r to go to or get as close as possible to aircraft camping though I would r= ather park close to asphalt and "backpack" to camping if need be. Anyone k= now if there will be a Lancair parking area? >=20 > Gonna try to go for a night or 2 hopefully for the LOBO dinner but not wi= lling to risk the grass taxi again. >=20 > David Weinsweig > N750DW Propjet >=20 > Sent from my iPad > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.ht= ml = --_c815f1b1-474d-436b-88e0-ee9fd606e1a2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI THERE

put a sign in yo= ur window "BASLER" and you can get to their ramp mostly on the hard surface= . you may even be still able to reserve a spot on their ramp.
when we wo= uld go to OSH in the 310 or the 340 we would do that and then park right by= the taxiway (by preference)

they will want you to get off the runwa= y as soon as you land=3B

there is of course=2C THE WORD NO. just do= n't go off the hard surface. turn the engine off and go talk to them.
the truth is that the previous weather is key. if it has been dry for a w= eek or two=2C then the ground will be firm to hard.ok
 =3Brain near = event time leaves wet spots and mush to taxi through. not so good

ju= st taxi slowly=2C very slowly.

a final thought is go out and measur= e the distance between your prop tip and the hard surface. use those inches= as a guide to viewing the path in front of you.

when you turn in ne= ar Ripon you have the choice of two altitudes=3B take the high one=3B it is= for the faster airplanes and war birds. it helps until they merge the two = for landing.

the worst i ever had was when they still were landing s= ide by side=2C with either long or short. you are not supposed to speak=2C = but i did twice=2C as i was turning base to final i said i am a Cessna 310 = and you gotta make room for me. then again on final.
well=2C
there wa= s a homebuilt to my left and a small high wing in front of me doing about 5= 0 knots. they started yelling at him to speed up...to no avail. i was too s= low to turn. i was at about 100 feet above the runway=2C i dared not go und= er him and to my left and below was the home built. i just kept coming back= on the power=2C the plane stalled and broke to the right and then to the l= eft as i came back on power and it set down as pretty as pudding.
just = instinctive=3B if i had thought about it=2C i would have been in trouble. n= ever heard the stall warning=2C too busy flying.
five=2C yes five FAA c= ontrollers=2C on three occasions=2C came over to "speak to the pilot" = =3B funny=2C it never occurred ot me to complain=2C
well
the next yea= r they changes the system to three spots on the runway=3B long middle and s= hort. different colors and shapes.

wouldn't want to do that with my = 4P. COULDN'T

Peter


>=3B To: lml@lancaironline.net<= br>>=3B Date: Mon=2C 1 Jul 2013 08:01:05 -0400
>=3B From: weinsweigd= @gmail.com
>=3B Subject: [LML] Taxiing at OSH
>=3B
>=3B Any= one have advice on how to avoid or at least minimize taxiing on the grass a= fter landing at Airventure. The last time I flew my Propjet to OSH a few y= ears ago they quickly put me on the grass despite my gesturing objections w= hich made me very nervous with the prop clearance and bumps. I understand t= hat Joe Bartels bent his engine mount taxiing on rough grass. I prefer to = go to or get as close as possible to aircraft camping though I would rather= park close to asphalt and "backpack" to camping if need be. Anyone know i= f there will be a Lancair parking area?
>=3B
>=3B Gonna try to g= o for a night or 2 hopefully for the LOBO dinner but not willing to risk th= e grass taxi again.
>=3B
>=3B David Weinsweig
>=3B N750DW P= ropjet
>=3B
>=3B Sent from my iPad
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