X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:29:42 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTP id 6178430 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:55:10 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.65; envelope-from=douglasbrunner@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=A8+4ywyVjW5SBWPrt3EMyXjG3kJeAlzdx8p8wTCoeZ9EiMFW0a/gspQBAaCV1nI8; h=Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [98.204.78.83] (helo=DougsVAIO) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UNQxH-0001ny-Vi for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:54:36 -0400 From: "Douglas Brunner" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] LIVP Power and Flight parameters from today's flight test. X-Original-Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 12:54:35 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <003901ce308b$ec0dd540$c4297fc0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4wf0xVnGMNuoUhR3qAwt5yOykORQAC+7YQ Content-Language: en-us X-ELNK-Trace: ad85a799c4f5de37c2eb1477c196d22294f5150ab1c16ac044d224e428e16b45f0067201ba36fd89dc50d7981a940dc2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 98.204.78.83 Craig, I am sure that others can tell you the difference between ROP and LOP in their planes. I almost never fly ROP but would guess it is about 6 knots in my plane. I have pretty good data about the speed losses with de-ice though having done test flights before and after. Test flight was done at 9,000 ft., 2700 RPM, with Ram Air. Don't remember air temp but it was in the winter over Redmond so it was fairly cold. Speed was computed by 4 way GPS ground speed averaged. No Deice: 247 kts Airframe only: 244 kts Airframe and Prop: 241 kts Therefore I would expect about 6 kts loss of speed with the Therm-X deice D. Brunner N241DB 600 hours -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Colyn Case Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 11:23 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] LIVP Power and Flight parameters from today's flight test. Craig, just noodling about my de-ice again. trying to figure out how slow I'm going to be. I only have ROP numbers on my plane at fl250. Trying to convert those into LOP speed. Do you have ROP numbers for your plane up there? In other words do you know your ROP to LOP speed penalty? Colyn On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Craig Berland wrote: Flight to OSH from Sedona, AZ...actually to Yankton, ND for lunch and fuel. Sunday ISA +35 FL 250 MP 31.9 RPM 2500 FF 17.1 gph TAS 277 (Chelton) Craig Berland N7VG Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:31 AM, "jeffrey liegner" wrote: > Power and Flight parameters from today's flight test. > > Level FL240 west bound: 15*F (IAS+41F) > > MAP 31.5 > RPM 2400 > Fuel 17.1 gph (LOP) FP 30 > TAS 257 > LIAS 174 > High CHT 394 (#2, of course) > Cabin Altitude 10,000' (PSID 5.0) > > If Fuel 18.1 gph, speed increases TAS 264 but CHT increase. > > http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N334P > > Comments? Analysis? > -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html