X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:25:57 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.3) with ESMTPS id 6163184 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:05:01 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.67; envelope-from=chris_zavatson@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 18:04:27 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.253] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 18:04:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 18:04:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 781538.63425.bm@smtp116-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: HVhjhZoVM1mqFIKyEXbmqks0u9h.3gVz40.klqi5tAY0Uoq TF0gkkGRrljCvaTaSGWbdDIJi4TtOO8H1RNPRP_kQvNnupuaKhaAju4zM8kD JfgqCbRbeBqAGwE40Jm58oV6M5OnVCEjOtRk84Vpo3xHVIEigcjdw8cdtRq2 4Hn_gY_ueFdLk1TqwUkb6YMlF75yiT72yGA5bwdAfDhaVDnePs6gZYcTU9HA RZHcs6gppRIlK8G0bkNhd6qXf4lNGSx1TFTBLB.4u52XoUPjhaE6UuKa13GC BIheCkQkUSLP.zM7PnL0P3bDpezThSp1rCLsvP6_wTpeMjfsTk1NR_3ORO4y bDbrNYmjUEZ6pXB4p7pYYPPDtzQDxRfD_AxmNzEU1nRCtgi6t6I2R1X_w0Vg p53LZURrsiyOkrIgC0lTU.uHtMo7ecmiuR14WfQ9QltpT0FU8URRRI8anPnI FujhqEfLGPIlXhpCOHSh49CkymzozXHdIUUa2NFlCUpTrtLGF4Xd0Fv9bNTi 3g3XSeT0eaU2mVWJrKGCkGKtvDlbZkZJ5Nur8ZTKfu7bIW9wr9cvy5Cp_QIc R4JxX2vDN4yEXGQ9VM7_O90.PbB3OOBbRo7KBKxrVb4ffUSYSeUKodqHeLuC Td.QxoIAi5mA- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 076hgjCswBC.G6e0vm7vgvZ9JJ0zmeBo_Oyw X-Rocket-Received: from [10.70.62.157] (chris_zavatson@166.137.183.134 with xymcookie) by smtp116-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2013 11:04:27 -0700 PDT References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3DA8A193-3607-419B-BE7B-1FA34E565CA8 Received: from [99.102.29.6] by web121603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:22:18 PDT X-Original-Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Chris Zavatson Subject: Re: [LML] Hydraulic gear pump failure - Relays Content-Length: 6427 X-Original-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:04:20 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List --Apple-Mail-3DA8A193-3607-419B-BE7B-1FA34E565CA8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lancair was supplying Cole Hersee 24021 when I received mine many moons ago.= Haven't checked recently. Still going after 15 years. http://www.colehersee.com/assets/files/drawings/1335978582-dwg24021.gif =20 http://www.colehersee.com/assets/files/catalogs/1303152643-CLH-080MasterCatS= ectionH.pdf =20 Chris Zavatson N91CZ 360std www.N91CZ.net From: Frederick Moreno To: "Lancair Mail (lml@lancaironline.net)" =20 Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 AM Subject: [LML] Hydraulic gear pump failure - Relays The relay on my Lancair IV hydraulic pump became intermittent after a few hu= ndred gear cycles. Usually worked, but stopped and required recycling of ge= ar handle and some pressure pulses to get it to work again.=20 =20 A good friend who used to run a marine supply and repair business said that i= n England where he used to live and here in Australia, only Cole Hersee rela= ys were acceptable to marine authorities for critical ships power systems. N= othing else qualifies. =20 =20 Our local auto store sells both the cheapies and the Cole Hersee (seaport t= own), both intermittent for starters, and continuous for up to 80 amps. Rem= oved the intermittent starter-style relay that came with the kit, put in the= continuous duty (same external dimensions, configuration) since the circuit= breaker on that circuit is 50 amps, had to rewire the relay (intermittent a= nd continuous duty are wired differently - one grounds to case, other does n= ot), and works fine so far.=20 =20 But they cost. Out here in Australia, figure about $80, but all that know= their stuff in this area said it is well worth the money, and legally requi= red off-shore. I note that URL for the relay vendor in one of the email car= ries Cole Hersee. Go for it. =20 Fred Moreno --Apple-Mail-3DA8A193-3607-419B-BE7B-1FA34E565CA8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Lancair was supplying Cole Hersee 24021 when I received mine man= y moons ago. Haven't checked recently.
Still going after 15 years.
 
 
Chris Zavatson
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From: Frederick Moreno <frederickmoreno@bigpond.= com>
To: "Lancai= r Mail (lml@lancaironline.net)"= <lml@lancaironline.net> <= br> Sent: Tuesday, March 26= , 2013 7:06 AM
Subject:= [LML] Hydraulic gear pump failure - Relays
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The relay on my Lancair IV hydraulic pump became intermittent after a f= ew hundred gear cycles.  Usually worked, but stopped and required recyc= ling of gear handle and some pressure pulses to get it to work again.  <= /div>
 
A good friend who used to run a ma= rine supply and repair business said that in England where he used to l= ive and here in Australia, only Cole Hersee relays were acceptable to marine= authorities for critical ships power systems.  Nothing else qualifies.=  
 
Our local auto store sells both the  cheapies and the Cole He= rsee (seaport town), both intermittent for starters, and continuous for up t= o 80 amps.  Removed the intermittent starter-style relay that came with= the kit, put in the continuous duty (same external dimensions, configuratio= n) since the circuit breaker on that circuit is 50 amps, had to rewire the r= elay (intermittent and continuous duty are wired differently - one grounds t= o case, other does not), and works fine so far. 
 
But they cost.   Out here in  Australia, figure about $8= 0, but all that know their stuff in this area said it is well worth the mone= y, and legally required off-shore.  I note that URL for the relay vendo= r in one of the email carries Cole Hersee.  Go for it.
 
Fred Moreno
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