Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #64994
From: Joe Trepicone <aviation@trepicone.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Aileron balancing
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:07:17 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Bill,  that's for your reply.  I'm hoping I can trouble you with another question or two.   I've enclosed 2 pictures of my copilot side weights yet to be trimmed and one of the pilots side already trimmed.  You can see how much I had to trim in order to get the full 20 deg travel.  Also you can see I put the nuts on the wrong side... I figured that one out quickly.   I wondering if I have mine installed upside down from yours.  Can you tell from these pictures?  

Bob Pastusek  had an idea to try. To install them in the bottom of the flange and check clearance.    Worth a try.  Did you also cast the center (long section) of weight or are those from Lancair?
Thanks,  joe Trepicone 
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On Mar 19, 2013, at 2:03 PM, "Bill Wade" <super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi Joe-
            I had the same problem- my weights are 2007 vintage, similar to yours I’d guess. What I did was to carve a mold from pine and cast additional weights. I coated the aileron pockets with white primer and swung the ailerons to find where they hit, filing high spots down until I got a few degrees of extra travel with nose-heavy ailerons (in primer). When it was done I covered the weights with BID as well as bolting them. After the finish coat I’ll readjust. –Bill Wade
 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:45 AM
Subject: [LML] Aileron balancing
 

Hi Group,  I’ve checked my aileron travel distance after balancing them and discovered I did not have enough travel distance downward (only about 17 degrees and not the required 20 degrees) however I have plenty in the upward direction.  The interference was coming from the lead counter weight itself hitting the top wing, inside wing skin.  (the problem seems slightly worse on the Pilot side than the copilot side)   I used the Lancair cantilevered counter weights that screw to the top of the aileron flange and not the older style that bond to the underside of the flange.  After shaving away enough weight to provide the proper downward aileron I need to add more weight…. About 30% more I’m estimating.  The weight installation instructions say to bevel the edge as required.  I had to do more than just bevel the edge. 

 

I’m going to have to add the older style weight to supplement the cantilevered weight.  Has anyone else had this problem?  I can’t imagine that moving the weight forward or aft would make much difference but maybe there’s an optimum location I haven’t found.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

Joe Trepicone IVPT

(trying to get my engine started with 90% to go!)

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