X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:23:09 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6071623 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:27:14 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.67; envelope-from=panelmaker@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=fO9KyMQb6adPSxZOrx1JUUQk+A4pH8zYEYHXpF9EKg87pYG7x8kToZqj26TjDZjG; h=Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.173.71.64] (helo=COMPUTER1) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U7o9Z-0003Uv-1u for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:41 -0500 From: "Jim Nordin" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: Subject: Which 360? X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:26:41 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01CE0E7A.D8A40570" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac4On/Oc/RfAbpsSTqi9GJpO4+EmgQADRmmw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-ELNK-Trace: bdfc62829fd2a80cc8ad50643b1069f8239a348a220c2609ce21246ac692b3900a8ced4c39fe1eb92601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.173.71.64 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01CE0E7A.D8A40570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have no plans for mogas with or with etoh. Jim _____ =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Bill Bradburry Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:52 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Which 360? =20 Not if it is non-ethanol Mogas. =20 Bill=20 =20 _____ =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Danny Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:21 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Which 360? =20 Don=92t even think about Mogas. It=92ll destroy the adhesive in your = tanks over time. =20 Danny LNC2-360 N 38=B0 43' 25.7" W 77=B0 30' 38.6" Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. =20 From: Tom McNerney [mailto:dudewanarace@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:37 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Which 360? =20 Jim, I don't know the difference between all the variants of the IO-360, = parallel valve. But, you can read about it here if you haven't already. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lycoming_O-360_variants =20 For starters I do know a few things. =20 Get a forward facing sump for sure. You can bolt on a Superior or other brand cold air sump on just about any of the 360's. This will allow you = to make a much tighter cowling. A rear facing sump is out of the question = as your nose gear is directly behind the sump. (might fit with the long = engine mount? I doubt it) But, I wouldn't let the "stock" configuration make = me pass up a good deal on an engine. =20 In my opinion, I would get a forward mounted prop governor. The back of = the engine is busy enough I think, but I have the short engine mount.. =20 Compression ratio will depend on what you want to accomplish. If you = want to run MoGas for example, need to keep it rather low. 8.7:1 and lower I think? =20 It seems many of the other variants relate to what type of mag setup. I have dual impulse coupled Slick mags. But, this is 2013 now, and if I = was starting over I would have some sort of electronic ignition on one or = both sides. So again, the variant doesn't really matter as you would = probably not use mags anyway. =20 So in summary, I would buy whatever is less expensive to get you the compression ratio you want, and the forward prop governor. Then, scrap = the rest of it and build it with modern aftermarket accessories. (Ignition, = Cold air sump, Fuel servo, etc) So the actual "stock" variant isn't that important. Financially this may not make sense if your buying a new complete engine kit, rather than just the core parts. Maybe get some = quotes from some of the build shops and only buy what you need, rather than = paying for a sump and mags you don't want. Barrett comes to mind :) http://www.bpaengines.com/ =20 Tom McNerney http://www.n54sg.com/=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01CE0E7A.D8A40570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have no plans for mogas with or = with etoh.

Jim

From: = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Tuesday, February = 19, 2013 6:52 AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Which = 360?

 

Not if it is non-ethanol = Mogas.

 

Bill

 

From: = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Danny
Sent: Monday, February = 18, 2013 11:21 PM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Which = 360?

 

Don=92t even think about Mogas.  It=92ll destroy the adhesive in your tanks over = time.

 

Danny

LNC2-360

N 38=B0 43' 25.7"

W 77=B0 30' 38.6"

Nothing is foolproof to a = sufficiently talented fool.

 

From: Tom = McNerney [mailto:dudewanarace@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February = 18, 2013 6:37 PM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Which = 360?

 

Jim,

I don't know the difference between all the variants of the IO-360, parallel valve.  But, you can read about it here if you haven't = already.

 

For starters I do know a few things.

 

Get a forward facing sump for sure.  You can bolt on a Superior or = other brand cold air sump on just about any of the 360's.  This will = allow you to make a much tighter cowling.  A rear facing sump is out of = the question as your nose gear is directly behind the sump. (might fit = with the long engine mount?  I doubt it) But, I wouldn't let the "stock" configuration make me pass up a good deal on an = engine.

 

In my opinion, I would get a forward mounted prop governor.  The back of = the engine is busy enough I think, but I have the short engine = mount..

 

Compression ratio will depend on what you want to accomplish.  If you want to = run MoGas for example, need to keep it rather low.  = 8.7:1 and lower I think?

 

It seems many of the other variants relate to what type of mag setup.  = I have dual impulse coupled Slick mags.  But, this is 2013 now, and if I = was starting over I would have some sort of electronic ignition on one or = both sides.  So again, the variant doesn't really matter as you would = probably not use mags anyway.

 

So in summary, I would buy whatever is less expensive to get you the compression ratio = you want, and the forward prop governor. Then, scrap the rest of it and = build it with modern aftermarket accessories. (Ignition, Cold air sump, Fuel = servo, etc)  So the actual "stock" variant isn't that = important.  Financially this may not make sense if your buying a new complete engine = kit, rather than just the core parts.  Maybe get some quotes from = some of the build shops and only buy what you need, rather than paying for a = sump and mags you don't want.  Barrett comes to mind :)

 

Tom McNerney

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