X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:12:08 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.101] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c2) with ESMTP id 5913357 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 08:21:31 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.101; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-98-85-189-141.mco.bellsouth.net[98.85.189.141]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20121201132055H0100iqsu8e>; Sat, 1 Dec 2012 13:20:56 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [98.85.189.141] From: "Bill Bradburry" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Lancair POH's Online X-Original-Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 08:21:00 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CDCF9C.CC5F2E10" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac3PuPVMal6mGPnQSCS1z8GYitOu6AADVmUg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CDCF9C.CC5F2E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think you owe the customer a repair, not a new replacement. Tell him it will take 10 days. Bill B _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kent Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 6:42 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair POH's Online Customer brought in a Beech A36 with a recently new MT prop with a "chrome" spinner. Composite (fiberglass) with a chrome like plating on it. And to my regret, I dropped the cone! Scuffed near the tip and a crack in the plating. So I fess up to the operator and said I replace it... Called the US distributor and talked to John Neilsen. He informs It will take until sometime in January to order one from the mfg, because the Germans go on holiday from now till then.. (good for them) Though He can offer a replacement which he has in stock in his warehouse for $1200. (!!!!) BUT, he tells me what they do when accidents happen... is send theirs to a place on the East Coast. http://www.muellercorp.com/ It seems the chrome process is actually an aluminum vacuum coating process... Mueller charges $250 to replate. I should take the cone to a body shop and have them sand off the coating and respray a perfect coat of primer.. so that all Mueller has to do is wipe down clean and coat. Hint is to provide Mueller a perfect speciman. (Like any chrome shop needs) Unfortunately, my customer is not willing to give me ten days for turnaround time... The MT rep says his own Beech has a painted spinner! Because he knows the overhead associated with a polished spinner. Myself, I think the workmanship with the original spinner is lacking. It appears someone probably placed circle masks over the screwholes to block the plating there. But the mask were lopsided. Also a few of the screwholes has the coatings wrinkled around the hole. The coating is corrupted by the wrinkles and my opinion its only a matter of time till it flakes away more. $1200 friggin US dollars for a substandard part! By the way, AAR in OKC dynamic balanced the prop after installation... initial readings was 0.72 IPS!!! Way out!! They placed two stacks of washers on the bulkhead. gee whiz. where is my bourbon? Kent Felkins Tulsa ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CDCF9C.CC5F2E10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think you owe the customer a = repair, not a new replacement. Tell him it will take 10 = days.

Bill B

From: = Lancair Mailing List = [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kent
Sent: Saturday, December = 01, 2012 6:42 AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: = Lancair POH's Online

Customer brought in a Beech A36 = with a recently new MT prop with a “chrome” spinner. =

Composite (fiberglass) with a = chrome like plating on it.

And to my regret, I dropped the = cone! Scuffed near the tip and a crack in the plating. =

So I fess up to the operator and = said I replace it...

Called the US distributor and talked = to John Neilsen.

He informs It will take until = sometime in January to order one from the mfg, because the Germans go on holiday = from now till then.. (good for them)

Though He can offer a replacement = which he has in stock in his warehouse for $1200.

(!!!!)

BUT, he tells me what they do = when accidents happen... is send theirs to a place on the East Coast. =

http://www.muellercorp.com/

It seems the chrome process is = actually an aluminum vacuum coating process...

Mueller charges $250 to replate. = I should take the cone to a body shop and have them sand off the coating and = respray a perfect coat of primer.. so that all Mueller has to do is wipe down = clean and coat.

Hint is to provide Mueller a = perfect speciman. (Like any chrome shop needs)

Unfortunately, my customer is not = willing to give me ten days for turnaround time...

The MT rep says his own Beech has = a painted spinner! Because he knows the overhead associated with a = polished spinner.

Myself, I think the workmanship = with the original spinner is lacking. It appears someone probably placed circle = masks over the screwholes to block the plating = there.

But the mask were lopsided. Also = a few of the screwholes has the coatings wrinkled around the hole. The coating is corrupted by the wrinkles and my opinion its only a matter of time till = it flakes away more.

$1200 friggin US dollars for a = substandard part!

By the way, AAR in OKC dynamic balanced the prop after installation... initial readings = was 0.72 IPS!!! Way out!! They placed two stacks of washers on the = bulkhead.

gee whiz. where is my = bourbon?

Kent = Felkins

Tulsa

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