X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 23:16:46 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from db3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com ([213.199.154.144] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with ESMTPS id 5744323 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:50:59 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=213.199.154.144; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from mail22-db3-R.bigfish.com (10.3.81.234) by DB3EHSOBE005.bigfish.com (10.3.84.25) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:50:23 +0000 Received: from mail22-db3 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail22-db3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498E13E0170 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:50:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.245.5;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:CH1PRD0710HT001.namprd07.prod.outlook.com;RD:none;EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -21 X-BigFish: PS-21(zz9371I542M9d9R328cMzz1202hzz8275ch8275bhz31h2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1155h) Received-SPF: softfail (mail22-db3: transitioning domain of htii.com does not designate 157.56.245.5 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.245.5; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com; helo=CH1PRD0710HT001.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; Received: from mail22-db3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail22-db3 (MessageSwitch) id 1346806220991232_12052; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB3EHSMHS018.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.81.230]) by mail22-db3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5397100044 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1PRD0710HT001.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (157.56.245.5) by DB3EHSMHS018.bigfish.com (10.3.87.118) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:50:18 +0000 Received: from CH1PRD0710MB367.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.11.123]) by CH1PRD0710HT001.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.152.36]) with mapi id 14.16.0190.008; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:50:07 +0000 From: Robert R Pastusek X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Temp effect on hydraulics Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Temp effect on hydraulics Thread-Index: AQHNitqE9pN7x9dQHUqo48RCjY1vnJd66HAw X-Original-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:50:07 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <41361035E6613244A377D5AC3BF5EFDD3A2E08DC@CH1PRD0710MB367.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [72.9.2.42] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Return-Path: rpastusek@htii.com X-OriginatorOrg: htii.com Ed, The problem is not trapped air; in fact, it's the lack of air that is the p= roblem. In a closed system like the 2-seat Lancairs, the hydraulic fluid is= trapped in a closed system. It has a low coefficient of expansion, but it = does expand when heated. With no place to expand, the pressure spikes. The = 4-series Lancairs have an accumulator (basically a bottle with a rubber mem= brane inside that separates compressed air on one side and hydraulic fluid = on the other). This allows the heated fluid a place to expand...and compres= s the air in the accumulator just a bit; the pressure rise is probably not = even noticeable. When you first service the system on a 2-seater, there is = always a small amount of trapped air. Over time, this gets flushed out of t= he system, and the ability to absorb even a small expansion of the fluid di= minishes...hence the pressure buildup. Hope this helps. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed G= ray Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 4:19 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Temp effect on hydraulics What is the coefficient of heat expansion on hydraulic fluid? Seems that b= ig pressure changes would be caused by trapped air. Auto brakes don't fail= in low or high temps. Could it be trapped air in the fluid line to the se= nsor? Ed Gray L360 Nearly complete with test hours, Dallas -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:01 AM Subject: lml Digest #3893 Lancair Mailing List Digest #3893 1) Re: Critical Service Bulletin by Silvio Novelli 2) Barrett at fly-in by "Claudette Colwell" 3) Re: Critical Service Bulletin on Cruise RPM by Silvio Novelli 4) Re: Critical Service Bulletin on Cruise RPM by Colyn Case 5) Re: Thermal influence on Hydraulic Pressure by "Danny" 6) Re: Thermal influence on Hydraulic Pressure by Frederick Moreno This digest is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . For archives and help click http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/Lists/lml/List.html LML website: http://www.lancaironline.net/maillist.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html