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Subject: Re: [LML] doglegs:shorter than they look! vs GL water survival
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Good point! Also the earlier in the flight you divert, the less they 
cost in distance/time. A 15 mile cut from 150miles back adds maybe 1-2 
miles but from 10 miles out it adds nearly the whole 15 miles.. 

  Fwiw

  J. Johnson
  235/320 55% [and holding]

On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:25:16 -0400, cwfmd@yahoo.com wrote:

  "bent like a dog's hind leg," 1703. Originally of a type of 
staircase.   A quick flight planning exercise for the IV-P. I selected 
two worst case over water flights at FL200 around L Superior(DLH to 
YXZ) and L Michigan(OBK PMN). It only seems to add 5-7 minutes to the 
flight to avoid the "outside glide range" area. Just from a time 
efficiency standpoint(planning, gear, training, etc), this seems like a 
faster strategy. 
  Same applies to ice or CBs. The plane is so fast, why not go around 
it and enjoy the scenery in VMC for an extra 10 minutes, instead of 
white knuckles? A divert to the right can also pick up a tailwind 
around the Low, and you can beat your counterpart who went thru the 
middle of it!

  If you have a flight planner that lets you do "rubber band" diverts 
around "dark stuff", it is always impressive how little distance the 
dogleg adds. That triangle distance looks a lot bigger than the 
straight line, but it really isn't, as a fraction of the total trip. 


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<style>p{margin: 0;padding: 0;}</style><P>Good point!&nbsp;Also the earlier in
the flight you divert, the less they cost in distance/time. A 15 mile cut from
150miles back adds maybe 1-2 miles but from 10 miles out it adds nearly the
whole 15 miles..</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Fwiw</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>J. Johnson</P>
<P>235/320 55% [and holding]<BR><BR>On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:25:16 -0400,
cwfmd@yahoo.com wrote:<BR></P>
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<DD class=highlight>"bent like a dog's hind leg," 1703. Originally of a type of
staircase.</DD>
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<P class=highlight>A quick flight planning exercise for the IV-P. I selected two
worst case over water flights at FL200&nbsp;around L Superior(DLH to
YXZ)&nbsp;and L Michigan(OBK PMN). It only seems to add 5-7 minutes to the
flight to avoid the "outside glide range" area. Just from a time efficiency
standpoint(planning, gear, training, etc), this seems like a faster strategy. 
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<DIV>Same applies to ice or CBs. The plane is so fast, why not go around it and
enjoy the scenery in VMC&nbsp;for an extra 10 minutes, instead of white
knuckles? A divert to the right can also pick up a tailwind around the Low, and
you can beat your counterpart who went thru the middle of it!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If you have a flight planner that lets you do "rubber band" diverts around
"dark stuff", it is always impressive how little distance the dogleg adds. That
triangle distance looks a lot bigger than the straight line, but it really
isn't, as a fraction of the total trip.</DIV>
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