X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 16:45:36 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from col0-omc3-s6.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.144] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTP id 5571258 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:58:12 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.34.144; envelope-from=ptjetpilot@hotmail.com Received: from COL118-W1 ([65.55.34.137]) by col0-omc3-s6.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 31 May 2012 12:57:36 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: ptjetpilot@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_978256a0-576f-4749-9acc-b44d4555b01b_" X-Originating-IP: [69.134.18.91] From: jeffrey rienzi X-Original-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Single Seat Lancair 320 Flight Controls X-Original-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:57:36 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2012 19:57:36.0888 (UTC) FILETIME=[A066B780:01CD3F67] --_978256a0-576f-4749-9acc-b44d4555b01b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank You Rob=2C Creative Imput ! I was asked previously why I would want t= o do such a thing=2C but I can't think of another fuel efficient=2C Fast= =2C "ROOMY" aircraft that would be this economical to operate. I had a lega= cy=2C which was nice=2C but a little pricey to operate. Then a Lancair 360= =2C which was way to cramped for me on long flights. I thought a 235 or 360= single seat would make a Great Aircraft=2C Comfortable=2C Roomy Cockpit=2C= with the speed and economy I was looking for. Do you know of anything else= the would fit that description for the Price=2C Speed=2C Comfort=2C and ec= onomy? Again thanks for the creative input Jeff To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu=2C 31 May 2012 15:17:31 -0400 From: rwolf99@aol.com Subject: [LML] Single Seat Lancair 320 Flight Controls Jeffrey - =20 It would not be too difficult to adapt a 320/360 to a single seat. "All yo= u gotta do is..." =20 =20 1) You need to move the forward elevator pushrod to the side. Obviously y= ou can't run it thru your body=2C and there will not be room under the seat= . =20 2) To accomplish this=2C you will have to make a new forward weldment to w= hich the control stick attaches. I would use the same attach points to the= front spar. Extend the new weldment to one side and attach the forward el= evator pushrod to that end. You will have to have the same distance betwee= n the pushrod attach point and the axis of rotation. (Duplicate the tabs w= hich are presently at the center of the weldment at the new attach point at= the end.) Have the stick pivot at the same distance from the axis of rota= tion also. This is not a good explanation=2C but the redesign of this weld= ment is something you will have to figure out. One complication -- present= ly the sticks attach at the ends of the weldment -- now it will attach in t= he middle -- so some creativity is required. The key point is to have the = distances between the pivot points and the attach points of pushrods identi= cal=2C so that the handling qualities don't change. (Note that the existin= g stops in the aileron system are at the stick. You will have to provide f= or this in your new design.) =20 3) You will need to install longer aileron pushrods from the inner idlers = to the stick. =20 =20 4) I would not change the hardward aft of the baggage bay=2C where the pre= sent idler and bobweight are located. You can accomplish this by installin= g an idler to the forward face of the baggage bulkhead. I have attached a = crude sketch of such an arrangement. This will be much simpler than the fo= rward weldment=2C as it simply translates the fore-aft pushrod motion back = to the vehicle centerline. You should probably install a phenolic hard poi= nt where these loads are applied to the baggage bulkhead. =20 5) Make a short pushrod to connect this idler to the existing idler/bobwei= ght contraption aft of the bagage bulkhead. =20 Once you get this all built=2C do a structural integrity test to make sure = the pitch control structure is robust. Apply full aft stick and then incre= ase the applied force to 167 pounds (FAR 23.397) and make sure it holds tog= ether. Do the same with forward stick. For ailerons=2C use 67 pounds. Lo= ok for things like aileron pushrod bowing and front weldment bending. Oh= =2C and disbonding of the structure from the baggage bulkhead. =20 My drawing does not show the pushrod displace all the way to the side of th= e vehicle. If you do that=2C it will not align with the vehicle centerline= . However=2C I think it will be okay if you do that. =20 I don't get the feeling that this is a huge undertaking. I'm not sure why = you'd want to do it=2C but as long as the distances between the appropriate= pivot points are maintained=2C you should do fine. =20 Enjoy! =20 - Rob Wolf =20 -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html= = --_978256a0-576f-4749-9acc-b44d4555b01b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank You Rob=2C Creative Imput ! I was asked previously why I would want t= o do such a thing=2C but I can't =3B think of another fuel efficient=2C= Fast=2C "ROOMY" aircraft that would be this economical to operate. I had a= legacy=2C which was nice=2C but a little pricey to operate. Then a Lancair= 360=2C which was way to cramped for me on long flights. I thought a 235 or= 360 single seat would make a Great Aircraft=2C Comfortable=2C Roomy Cockpi= t=2C with the speed and economy I was looking for. Do you know of anything = else the would fit that description for the Price=2C Speed=2C Comfort=2C an= d economy? Again thanks for the creative input

Jeff


To: lml@lancairon= line.net
Date: Thu=2C 31 May 2012 15:17:31 -0400
From: rwolf99@aol.co= m
Subject: [LML] Single Seat Lancair 320 Flight Controls

Jeffrey -
 =3B
It would not be too difficult to adapt a 320/360 to a single seat.&nbs= p=3B "All you gotta do is..." =3B
 =3B
1) =3B You need to move the forward elevator pushrod to the side.&= nbsp=3B Obviously you can't run it thru your body=2C and there will not be = room under the seat.
 =3B
2) =3B To accomplish this=2C you will have to make a new forward w= eldment to which the control stick attaches. =3B I would use the same a= ttach points to the front spar. =3B Extend the new weldment to one side= and attach the forward elevator pushrod to that end. =3B You will have= to have the same distance between the pushrod attach point and the axis of= rotation. =3B (Duplicate the tabs which are presently at the center of= the weldment at the new attach point at the end.) =3B Have the stick p= ivot at the same distance from the axis of rotation also. =3B This is n= ot a good explanation=2C but the redesign of this weldment is something you= will have to figure out. =3B One complication -- presently the sticks = attach at the ends of the weldment -- now it will attach in the middle -- s= o some creativity is required. =3B The key point is to have the distanc= es between the pivot points and the attach points of pushrods identical=2C = so that the handling qualities don't change. =3B (Note that the existin= g stops in the aileron system are at the stick. =3B You will have to pr= ovide for this in your new design.)
 =3B
3) =3B You will need to install longer aileron pushrods from the i= nner idlers to the stick. =3B
 =3B
4) =3B I would not change the hardward aft of the baggage bay=2C w= here the present idler and bobweight are located. =3B You can accomplis= h this by installing an idler to the forward face of the baggage bulkhead.&= nbsp=3B I have attached a crude sketch of such an arrangement. =3B = =3BThis will be much simpler than the forward weldment=2C as it simply tran= slates the fore-aft pushrod motion back to the vehicle centerline. =3B = You should probably install a phenolic hard point where these loads are app= lied to the baggage bulkhead.
 =3B
5) =3B Make a short pushrod to connect this idler to the existing = idler/bobweight contraption aft of the bagage bulkhead.
 =3B
Once you get this all built=2C do a structural integrity test to make = sure the pitch control structure is robust. =3B Apply full aft stick an= d then increase the applied force to 167 pounds (FAR 23.397) and make sure = it holds together. =3B Do the same with forward stick. =3B For aile= rons=2C use 67 pounds. =3B Look for things like aileron pushrod bowing = and front weldment bending. =3B Oh=2C and disbonding of the structure f= rom the baggage bulkhead.
 =3B
My drawing does not show the pushrod displace all the way to the side = of the vehicle. =3B If you do that=2C it will not align with the vehicl= e centerline. =3B However=2C I think it will be okay if you do that.
 =3B
I don't get the feeling that this is a huge undertaking. =3B I'm n= ot sure why you'd want to do it=2C but as long as the distances between the= appropriate pivot points =3Bare maintained=2C you should do fine.
 =3B
Enjoy!
 =3B
- Rob Wolf
 =3B

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