X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:21:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.84] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTP id 5465945 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:00:00 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.116.84; envelope-from=frederickmoreno@bigpond.com Received: from BLU0-SMTP278 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:59:26 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [121.215.214.127] X-Originating-Email: [frederickmoreno@bigpond.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: frederickmoreno@bigpond.com Received: from Razzle ([121.215.214.127]) by BLU0-SMTP278.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:59:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:59:05 +0800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; charset="ISO-8859-1"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_HMMVSPT1VA4000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail (6295180) From: Frederick Moreno References: X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-Priority: 3 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mail (lml@lancaironline.net)" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LIV landing gear anomaly X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2012 23:59:25.0548 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1DD4AC0:01CD112C] --------------Boundary-00=_HMMVSPT1VA4000000000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll check it out. Thanks. F =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: William A. Hogarty=0D Date: 3/04/2012 2:59:47 AM=0D To: lml@lancaironline.net=0D Subject: [LML] Re: LIV landing gear anomaly=0D =0D Hello Fred:=0D =0D Had something similar happen last year in flight. Turned out the gear handle was binding on the cover panel and wasnt traveling the last 1/8 in= ch. Got some real funny results. Simple fix.. Good Luck=0D =0D Bill H.=0D =0D =0D On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Frederick Moreno wrote:=0D =0D Here is an interesting couple of events with nothing relevant found in th= e archives. Aircraft has an estimated 300 take off and landing cycles sin= ce new.=0D =0D About three flights a go I took off and raised the gear. One main came = up, showed yellow, one stayed down and showed green, and the nose stayed down and showed green. Makes for a funny looking light display on the panel. Recycled gear, no problem, and none in subsequent flights. =0D =0D Last flight, after flying an hour to a fly in, staying five hours (cool d= ay) I took off, nose gear retracted and showed yellow, but mains stayed down and showed green. Recycled gear, no problem. =0D =0D When I got home, I jacked up the gear and did various retraction tests. = In each case, the nose came up first and mains followed. A buddy applied ab= out 20-30 pounds of "air load" to the left main before retraction but to no effect. Again, nose came up first and mains followed immediately after = the nose wheel banged against the stop. Hmmmm....=0D =0D Our initial theory was electrical contactor fault, but nothing was found = in ground tests. Initial theories about pressure switch dead band (checked O= K, about 1100 on, 1200-1220 off) went out the window with the results of the ground retraction tests. =0D =0D Thoughts among the landing gear cognoscenti?=0D =0D Fumbling Fred=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_HMMVSPT1VA4000000000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'll check it out.  Thanks.   F 
 
 
 
 
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Date: 3/04/2012 2:= 59:47 AM
Subject: [LML] Re:= LIV landing gear anomaly
 
Hello Fred:
 
Had something similar happen last year in flight.  Turned out t= he gear handle was binding on the cover panel and wasnt traveling the las= t 1/8 inch.  Got some real funny results.  Simple fix..  G= ood Luck
 
Bill H.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Frederick Moreno= <frede= rickmoreno@bigpond.com> wrote:
Here is an interesting couple of events with nothing relevant found = in the archives.   Aircraft has an estimated 300 take off and l= anding cycles since new.
 
About three flights a go I took off and raised the gear.  = One main came up, showed yellow, one stayed down and showed green, and t= he nose stayed down and showed green.  Makes for a funny looking lig= ht display on the panel. Recycled gear, no problem, and none in= subsequent flights. 
 
Last flight, after flying an hour to a fly in, staying five hours (c= ool day), I took off, nose gear retracted and showed yellow, but mains&nb= sp;stayed down and showed green.  Recycled gear, no problem.
 
When I got home, I jacked up the gear and did various retraction tes= ts.  In each case, the nose came up first and mains followed.  = A buddy applied about 20-30 pounds of "air load" to the left main before = retraction but to no effect.  Again,  nose came up first and ma= ins followed immediately after the nose wheel banged against the sto= p.  Hmmmm....
 
Our initial theory was electrical contactor fault, but nothing = was found in ground tests. Initial theories about pressure swit= ch dead band (checked OK, about 1100 on, 1200-1220 off) went out the wind= ow with the results of the ground retraction tests.
 
Thoughts among the landing gear cognoscenti?
 
Fumbling Fred

 
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