Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #61528
From: Frederick Moreno <frederickmoreno@bigpond.com>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LIV landing gear anomaly
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:21:24 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Hi John:   Mains up and then nose up near or at end of mains travel is normal.  That is what happens  during ground retraction test.  Makes it all the more quizzical.
 
Cognoscenti are those "in the know."
 
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 3/04/2012 2:59:50 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: LIV landing gear anomaly
 

Hi Fred,

Intermittent sticking of the hydraulic gear down lock in the mains comes to mind, but doesn’t explain why the nose gear would participate in the anomaly.  Could contamination of the system be a factor?  Something in the hydraulic fluid causing intermittent blockage? 

Just performed a bunch of retract tests last week on 31VP and I can’t remember for sure, but seems like the mains start up first and near the end of the main gear travel but before the main gear doors slam shut, the nose gear sucks up real fast.  Does that sound about right for the IVP system working normally?

No cognoscenti here, whatever that is.

John

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Frederick Moreno
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:50 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] LIV landing gear anomaly

 

Here is an interesting couple of events with nothing relevant found in the archives.   Aircraft has an estimated 300 take off and landing cycles since new.

 

About three flights a go I took off and raised the gear.   One main came up, showed yellow, one stayed down and showed green, and the nose stayed down and showed green.  Makes for a funny looking light display on the panel. Recycled gear, no problem, and none in subsequent flights. 

 

Last flight, after flying an hour to a fly in, staying five hours (cool day), I took off, nose gear retracted and showed yellow, but mains stayed down and showed green.  Recycled gear, no problem.

 

When I got home, I jacked up the gear and did various retraction tests.  In each case, the nose came up first and mains followed.  A buddy applied about 20-30 pounds of "air load" to the left main before retraction but to no effect.  Again,  nose came up first and mains followed immediately after the nose wheel banged against the stop.  Hmmmm....

 

Our initial theory was electrical contactor fault, but nothing was found in ground tests. Initial theories about pressure switch dead band (checked OK, about 1100 on, 1200-1220 off) went out the window with the results of the ground retraction tests.

 

Thoughts among the landing gear cognoscenti?

 

Fumbling Fred

 

 
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