X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:21:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm32-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([72.30.239.138] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with SMTP id 5466038 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:48:58 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.30.239.138; envelope-from=browncc1@verizon.net Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm32.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 02:48:23 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.226] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 02:48:23 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.98] by t7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 02:48:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2012 02:48:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 248322.77014.bm@omp1003.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 30303 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2012 02:48:22 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: JyWcJloVM1mXDJvAqvH9WWMl32Ym92ulAd1ujf3Vx84Mgge oUd7SoTqZG70.TomxSIhG.1aiLPiCYDQl35d_06BC5picsO7QAm.3pHtJZpi k489B3khpK3Wop1KSABcAL.KF3qi0PufCWD6EBHLs8n2.w4zu7JbV3ZG1LAI IJbInWAk4BLSfwL7EFjkUQ24AzgXk3Bnk0W1.FtTcnnDeVRhfOjsnQTGO3JY XQRIT_smP1lUyefE7K9K6jzxsammM0Tfc19SgfQlA4DvuK5qjGu3Zs9_ba16 gmz6L5UPxtfHTU.otsRjiV1E5YqINlLdFgz.nu8I_Vq9WC7_cLxlKZfl5atP _wuXLxDUwdTTqXqIb82ZXPunbMEs17VAJAN8BuK1oXNcilHaw0ztopFQZ3qq fUZ_LZtk_M5YBwwa.KVJhcw61r04XfkKQgZXCfFnyk_g- X-Yahoo-SMTP: F49l9g6swBC0R9n8vJIbm7Tf3P8Xlmia8rHIwTlO__Ml Received: from new-host-2.home (browncc1@72.64.81.165 with plain) by smtp102.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Apr 2012 19:48:22 -0700 PDT From: Charles Brown Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-779299774 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Main gear overcenter spring X-Original-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:48:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <888E0F91-5C53-4866-B022-1D142DA004C9@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-1-779299774 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not sure what the spec is on my Legacy springs for the main gear = overcenter link, but they sat around for 5 years, then flew for ~200 = cycles in the last six months (since first flight), and are quite = robust, exerting at least 20lb force at the fully extended position. On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote: Ed, =20 Very little force is required to keep the main over-center links = over-center. One way to check them out is the emergency gear drop - you = should see the gear lock indicators turn green whether the check is done = in the air (might be necessary to slip a bit to get a green) or on jacks = (it might take a few extra seconds to get the lock because of friction = or no more than about 2 lbs of pressure outward against an offending = wheel. =20 TK-5 shocks should have been adjusted to the same length as the donut = assembly. This should be checked on jacks. If you have standard gear, = the middle gear door may not close properly if the extended shock does = not position the gear to the same position that the old donuts did when = the middle doors were installed. =20 Scott Krueger =20 In a message dated 4/2/2012 7:53:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, = egraylaw@swbell.net writes: While testing gravity drop on my mains with dump valve open, the spring = on the overcenter link seems to only exert about 5-10 lbs. force on = the link at locked position. Spring is many years old but not in use. = Do these get weak? What is recommended force of spring? I just = installed the TK-5 shocks. The adjustment moved the tire back so that = it no longer touches the hydraulic lines and centers in the wheelwell. = Took maximum short position on the adjustment cam to do this. Is this = typical? Ed Gray Dallas, 360 ready for paint. Reg. papers sent to Faa, = look for 77ZG --Apple-Mail-1-779299774 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Not sure what the spec is on my Legacy springs for the main gear overcenter link, but they sat around for 5 years, then flew for ~200 cycles in the last six months (since first flight), and are quite robust, exerting at least 20lb force at the fully extended position.

On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote:

Ed,
 
Very little force is required to keep the main over-center links over-center.  One way to check them out is the emergency gear drop - you should see the gear lock indicators turn green whether the check is done in the air (might be necessary to slip a bit to get a green) or on jacks (it might take a few extra seconds to get the lock because of friction or no more than about 2 lbs of pressure outward against an offending wheel.
 
TK-5 shocks should have been adjusted to the same length as the donut assembly.  This should be checked on jacks.  If you have standard gear, the middle gear door may not close properly if the extended shock does not position the gear to the same position that the old donuts did when the middle doors were installed.
 
Scott Krueger
 
In a message dated 4/2/2012 7:53:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, egraylaw@swbell.net writes:

While testing gravity drop on my mains with dump valve open, the spring on the overcenter link seems to only exert about 5-10 lbs. force on the link at locked position.  Spring is many  years old but not in use.  Do these get weak?  What is recommended force of spring?  I just installed the TK-5 shocks.  The adjustment moved the tire back so that it no longer touches the hydraulic lines and centers in the wheelwell.  Took maximum short position on the adjustment cam to do this.  Is this typical?  Ed Gray Dallas, 360 ready for paint. Reg. papers sent to Faa, look for 77ZG


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