X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 12:34:50 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.3) with ESMTP id 5352191 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:38:10 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.105.143; envelope-from=N66mg@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q0GGbP8x016157 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:37:25 -0500 Received: from core-dse002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dse002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.227.197]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6E970E00008F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:37:25 -0500 (EST) From: N66mg@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <65f8.5e49850a.3c45ac45@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:37:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Exhaust system X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_65f8.5e49850a.3c45ac45_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [68.5.178.192] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:406711008:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 5 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29484f145245196d --part1_65f8.5e49850a.3c45ac45_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Has anyone ever tried a trittle charger? I have been using one on my=20 Glasair for years and no problem with my battery Michael Giardino n66mg n7sz 97% =20 =20 In a message dated 1/16/2012 5:19:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, =20 colyncase@earthlink.net writes: re: the Odyssey batteries. Read the charging instructions carefully and= =20 make sure your charger conforms. One of mine got fried using a standard = =20 auto-charger. IMO although they have wonderful shelf life compared to= =20 aviation batteries, they do seem to be susceptible to over charging. =20 Colyn On Jan 15, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Lorn H Olsen wrote: From: "Ed Gray" <_egraylaw@swbell.net_ (mailto:egraylaw@swbell.net) > Date: January 13, 2012 6:26:16 AM EST Here=E2=80=99s a question for Chris, Paul, and others with knowledge of L2= =20 exhaust. My 360 with Superior IO 360 is ready for engine start up. The e= xhaust=20 is a 4 into 1 built by Sonic Headers in Princeton, Mn. It is beautiful wo= rk=20 and ceramic coated. Sonic provided me with a clamp to fit over the large= =20 pipe (collector exit). This will need to be fastened to the underside of= =20 the fuse in some manner, but I question whether it is necessary. The=20 collector is bolted to two of the headers with stainless dogbones and 3/16= =20 bolts. The headers are of course very solid on the block. The additional= clamp=20 would need to be rubber mounted to allow engine movement. I see no way=20 the collector or any part of it can ever depart the plane. Is this clamp = =20 necessary? I have been flying my O-320 with standard factory exhaust for over 1,800 = =20 hours without a clamp and without any problems. I do have the 2 exhausts = =20 strapped together with a stainless hose clamp over exhaust wrap. See post o= n =20 01/11/12 for a photo. I just have completed the install of a 2 screen Dynon Skyview system with= =20 ap and Dynon txpd with traffic, Garmin SL30 radio to give ILS presentation= =20 on the Dynon screen. I have no steam gage backups. With dual screens,=20 backup batteries and dual ADHRS I feel that I have enough redundancy. Doe= s=20 anyone have input or comment? This plane may be one of the first with no= =20 round gauges anywhere. I like backup steam. Next issue, my battery is an Odyssy 650 (650 cranking amps) which has been= =20 sitting around for 5 years. It does not turn the crank fast enough for=20 starting. Is 650 amps enuf for a 360 (8.5 compression). I probably need = a=20 new battery but don=E2=80=99t want to buy one undersized. I have been using an _Odyssey_=20 (http://www.odysseybatteries.com/applications/aircraft.htm) _PC925_ (http:= //www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc925.htm)=20 for over 7 years and it still starts the plane better than the new Gill= =20 and/or Concords that I had in the past. I have mistakenly left my master o= n=20 for about 7 days. The battery was able to recover. I believe that Bill=20 Harrelson uses a set of either _PC625's_=20 (http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc625.htm) or _PC680's_=20 (http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc680.htm) , one as main and one = as a backup. Bill has enough for his O-320. (Bill=20 pop-in). I originally purchased the battery from _B&C, model # BC100-1_=20 (http://www.bandc.biz/search.aspx?find=3Dbattery&log=3Dfalse&high=3D200.00&= low=3D100.00) . The=20 price from B&C is still good at $150.00. I really appreciate this website-very informative! I will post pics when= =20 the plane is together. Look for N360 ZG at Oshkosh! Ed Gray, Dallas -- Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, _mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us_=20 (mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us)=20 LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,800 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan =3D --part1_65f8.5e49850a.3c45ac45_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
Has anyone ever = tried a=20 trittle charger?  I have been using one on my Glasair for years and no= =20 problem with my battery
Michael=20 Giardino
n66mg
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In a message dated 1/16/2012 5:19:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 colyncase@earthlink.net writes:
= re: the=20 Odyssey batteries.  Read the charging instructions carefully and mak= e=20 sure your charger conforms.   One of mine got fried using a standard= =20 auto-charger.     IMO although they have wonderful shelf life= =20 compared to aviation batteries, they do seem to be susceptible to over=20 charging.=20

Colyn

On Jan 15, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Lorn H Olsen wrote:
From: "Ed Gray" <egraylaw@swbell.net>
Date= : January=20 13, 2012 6:26:16 AM EST

Here=E2=80=99s a question for Chris, Pau= l, and others=20 with knowledge of L2 exhaust.  My 360 with Superior IO 360 is= =20 ready for engine start up.  The exhaust is a 4 into 1 built b= y=20 Sonic Headers in Princeton, Mn.  It is beautiful work=20 and ceramic coated.  Sonic provided me with a clamp to fit ov= er=20 the large pipe (collector exit).  This will need to be fasten= ed to=20 the underside of the fuse in some manner, but I question whether i= t is=20 necessary.  The collector is bolted to two of the headers wit= h=20 stainless dogbones and 3/16 bolts.  The headers are of course= very=20 solid on the block.  The additional clamp would need to be ru= bber=20 mounted to allow engine movement.  I see no way the collector or= =20 any part of it can ever depart the plane.  Is this clamp=20 necessary?

I have been flying my O-320 with standard factory exhaust for over 1= ,800=20 hours without a clamp and without any problems. I do have the 2 exhausts= =20 strapped together with a stainless hose clamp over exhaust wrap. See post= on=20 01/11/12 for a photo.

I just have completed the install of a 2 screen= =20 Dynon Skyview system with ap and Dynon txpd with traffic, Garmin S= L30=20 radio to give ILS presentation on the Dynon screen.  I have n= o=20 steam gage backups.  With dual screens, backup batteries and = dual=20 ADHRS I feel that I have enough redundancy.  Does anyone have= =20 input or comment?  This plane may be one of the first with=20 no round gauges anywhere.

I like backup steam.

Next issue, my battery is an Odyssy 650 (650=20 cranking amps) which has been sitting around for 5 years.  It= does=20 not turn the crank fast enough for starting.  Is 650 amps enu= f for=20 a 360 (8.5 compression).  I probably need a new battery but d= on=E2=80=99t=20 want to buy one undersized.

I have been using an Odysse= y PC925 = ;for=20 over 7 years and it still starts the plane better than the new Gill and/o= r=20 Concords that I had in the past. I have mistakenly left my master on for = about=20 7 days. The battery was able to recover. I believe that Bill Harrelson us= es a=20 set of either PC625's&nb= sp;or PC680's, o= ne as=20 main and one as a backup. Bill has enough for his O-320. (Bill pop-in).

I originally purchased the battery from B&C,=20 mode= l #=20 BC100-1. The price from B&C is still good at=20 $150.00.

I really appreciate this website-very informati= ve!=20  I will post pics when the plane is together.  Look for = N360=20 ZG at Oshkosh!
 
Ed Gray, Dallas

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Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, A= SMEL,=20 ASES, Comm, Inst
DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us
LNC2, FB9= 0/92,=20 O-320-D1F, 1,800 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE=20 Michigan


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