X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:00:01 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm32-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.3) with SMTP id 5338846 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:45:30 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.229.53; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2012 17:44:55 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.160] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2012 17:44:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1061.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2012 17:44:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 223383.39818.bm@omp1061.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 17517 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jan 2012 17:44:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jy/T75CYiUg1rX36oB0abRF5Jy+K10lwpy97xIHsjQqOGgjPkA1P71sfMUUDkVquhO9HPI1XRlwDQPgbcM1FLb5l09hJN02iOGvHjtTF/YOkm717QJcrQEOaWLpQVeYwZoYJAvIjeY/Ou+fj2geNHVclXAXB17iP1jUhDRIS06Q=; X-YMail-OSG: m9a6ZtYVM1lN8Pygq7jNubUGNHE6_w9U3o7SiJECYWjdwPY KW5d8qvWrJi.i6D9CXudkpND4PdmsmxwuyG7ULyKYOjNpNguv2s39XHK4bLa Lq4NN10LlcC2TOPNZyZxd.SFvBE0d7IWjaJtbKWRg5mwcjI7f_1nwSo24zwc d0jZ8gn8HYUnT.dxqCjNSh6gBQdWQuuEWvIKsi.x5iXDd2jEt0KAdtIMqyhm mbxkhouEeM4n8YqByhQeYggSvTE0cS01G_moqEYLLHoRRmPmC2cGZzYL7Xeo Uh7aM3unvn58cOBZ5BhgaH6ZrIV6tdMKH46FGQCtNFoHwP5kK_lB6tCUZN5B 94hdEm1m7NtvSSgFYS5vgbih.p1YgwYRHBw6myCMwCf26o8YWlOM5s5iAON7 r2QpqbF1Hqs_I60u.CITlCEv4XobpoeKbH98FYQSq Received: from [97.122.158.103] by web125601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 09:44:54 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1325785494.17353.YahooMailNeo@web125601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:44:54 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Casey Reply-To: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Gear shimmy X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1981468715-1379674311-1325785494=:17353" ---1981468715-1379674311-1325785494=:17353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pete,=0AAfter much discussion and speculation, the concensus seems to be th= at the most likely cause of your problem is either a parallelism error in o= ne of the brake rotors(rotor not flat) or looseness of the main gear leg in= the receptical.=A0 It might also be looseness of the hub on the lower end = of the gear leg, or a combination of all three.=A0 Most evidence seems to p= oint away from the nose gear strut itself, especially in the case of a mild= -to-moderate 30 mph shimmy.=0A=A0=0AI created an access panel that allows m= e to jack on the spar, leaving the gear leg loose, but without that the acc= epted procedure is to jack on the lower surface of the wing under the main = spar.=A0 Of course, it is best to to distribute the load as much as possibl= e.=A0 And I would recommend jacking some distance outboard to reduce the fo= rce required.=0AGary Casey=0A=A0=0AAfter 250 shimmy free hours, I am now ge= tting gear shimmy when my ES-P slows down through about 30 knots. I think = I recall folks saying this is due to looseness in the upper main gear leg s= ockets. Is this correct, or is there another cause? My strut (new version= ) looks fine.=0AIf it is loose main gear, how do you suggest that I get the= main gear off of the ground? There are no obvious jack points.=0AThanks f= or the advice!=0APete ---1981468715-1379674311-1325785494=:17353 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pete,
After much discussion and speculation, the concensus seems to be that the= most likely cause of your problem is either a parallelism error in one of = the brake rotors(rotor not flat) or looseness of the main gear leg in the r= eceptical.  It might also be looseness of the hub on the lower end of = the gear leg, or a combination of all three.  Most evidence seems to p= oint away from the nose gear strut itself, especially in the case of a mild= -to-moderate 30 mph shimmy.
 
I created an access = panel that allows me to jack on the spar, leaving the gear leg loose, but w= ithout that the accepted procedure is to jack on the lower surface of the w= ing under the main spar.  Of course, it is best to to distribute the l= oad as much as possible.  And I would recommend jacking some distance outboard to reduce the force required.
Gary Casey
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After 250 shimmy fre= e hours, I am now getting gear shimmy when my ES-P slows down through about= 30 knots. I think I recall folks saying this is due to looseness in the u= pper main gear leg sockets. Is this correct, or is there another cause? M= y strut (new version) looks fine.
If it is loose main gear, h= ow do you suggest that I get the main gear off of the ground? There are no= obvious jack points.
Thanks for the advice!
P= ete
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