X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.92] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.3) with SMTP id 5330818 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:13:44 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.92; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.91.61] by nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2011 22:13:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.1] by tm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2011 22:12:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2011 22:12:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 305688.4595.bm@omp1001.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 25195 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Dec 2011 22:12:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bD2cZDoeNOkUhHCYQY2KOwsWlfafhK1s3oh0OkkzFOYY+Q+GewcIjP0HffNYhtUhbZVxWm7C9azBKuGrd+/gZ50UWWp5XZFbbrHKjLUIabuB4/Nkwc6oKYqHA0B4lI6MBuGD6rjqHQ2JD3kSR+s9N6LS6UMk+8Wouf0c9b5QYgc=; X-YMail-OSG: rnJExVsVM1m5c5snUBPHy38fd3VhXLNaFIdE6mos_NdmCed 6U9TDTFeDdL8Kh3t2GOoUPMl5IoUutbuyT01VLYe38CCdfULWQkERueTgc.P 40N7rbfsKe11CR2njeZ7x3GtQtEdqlJrqKjq.67qouIuCedg._qMHAJBc9h2 lNQnhJveyCYwAdZoSfyTuAbupeV5DV8l5ROeCWXwU2tz6liRMqiTT5JSahtS aebJnmLgWTRUfwEWcwLDil4yd5rc254XXQ99rdSU_J_a44WW74.XVpypsqKo xRuXHhhVRRzx3FaPtdx6HU6LE3kYYWPgjxsZJEKPZqq63H0AuB2DyhKGgs6S cxOXsl.uCwbGF4VETTFmzVM5GgREnsNPI0hIrXCvKt9QxaRtRPgtQ8.97gAj 1Yq9T60r5veUX0i7k074O0gU_xHxsa_.S2FwDrja2qjsrxRB7T72._2VrhyP tEBby7rqDvTML01cmP2YiqBLIiw-- Received: from [76.8.220.20] by web111401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:12:07 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1325196727.14684.YahooMailNeo@web111401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:12:07 -0800 (PST) From: randy snarr Reply-To: randy snarr Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lightspeed Ignition X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="656408749-842706071-1325196727=:14684" --656408749-842706071-1325196727=:14684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dom,=0AWhen running a mag and the Light Speed EI they recommend the timing = be set on the mag with a timing light as they do for their unit as well. If= the shop set the =C2=A0 mag timing with a buzz box that could have changed= it. I run the same set up. I get almost no drop in rpm when the mag is shu= t off. This is due to the fact that the mag mostly sparks in the shadow of = the longer hotter sparking electronic ignition. It is my understanding that= the Electronic Ignition is doing 90% of the firing of the gases in the cyl= .=0A=0AI would retime both the EI and the mag and see what you get. I have = the hall effect module and you use a simple automotive timing light with ma= rks on the fly wheel.=0AIt is pretty easy to do..=0A=0AFWIW..=0ARandy Snarr= =0AN694RS=0A=0A235/320=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A"Flight by machines heavier than air i= s unpractical and insignificant, if not utterly impossible"=0A-Simon Newcom= b, 1902=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Gary Casey =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net =0ASent: Thursday, December 29= , 2011 2:10 PM=0ASubject: [LML] Re: Lightspeed Ignition=0A =0A=0ADom,=0AI'm= sure the most common cause for this is a change in ignition timing. =C2=A0= I assume the mechanic left the Lightspeed system alone, but did the normal = routine of resetting the timing of the mag. =C2=A0If the two timings are ex= actly the same you will likely get the same drop on each, or maybe a little= less drop on the Lightspeed. =C2=A0I've observed that most annuals include= resetting the timing, but rarely will the mechanic state what it was befor= e the change, which would be very useful information. =C2=A0I'll bet he adv= anced the timing of the mag by maybe 2 degrees. =C2=A0Just a guess :-)=0AGa= ry=0A=0AUm =E2=80=93 er - (headscratch) =E2=80=93 fellow LMLer=E2=80=99s = =E2=80=93 since the annual performed by maintenance outfit (not necessarily= significant) I notice I get a drop around 80 RPM on the Lightspeed ignitio= n during run-up, whereas before it was barely noticeable.=0A=C2=A0=0ABeen w= ondering why. Changed my iridium plugs two days ago just as a starting poin= t but no difference.=0A=C2=A0=0ASo thought I would ask the experts herein.= =0A=C2=A0=0AThanks=0A=C2=A0=0ADom Crain --656408749-842706071-1325196727=:14684 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dom,
When running a mag and the Light Speed EI they recommend the ti= ming be set on the mag with a timing light as they do for their unit as wel= l. If the shop set the   mag timing with a buzz box that could have ch= anged it. I run the same set up. I get almost no drop in rpm when the mag i= s shut off. This is due to the fact that the mag mostly sparks in the shado= w of the longer hotter sparking electronic ignition. It is my understanding= that the Electronic Ignition is doing 90% of the firing of the gases in th= e cyl.

I would retime both the EI and the mag and = see what you get. I have the hall effect module and you use a simple automo= tive timing light with marks on the fly wheel.
It is pretty easy = to do..

FWIW..
Randy Snarr
N694RS
235/320

&nbs= p;
"Flight by machines heavier= than air is unpractical and insignificant, if not utterly impossible"
-Simon Newcomb, 1902

From: Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
= Sent: Thursday, December 2= 9, 2011 2:10 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Lightspeed Ignition

=0A
Dom,
I'm sure the most common cause for this is a = change in ignition timing.  I assume the mechanic left the Lightspeed = system alone, but did the normal routine of resetting the timing of the mag= .  If the two timings are exactly the same you will likely get the sam= e drop on each, or maybe a little less drop on the Lightspeed.  I've o= bserved that most annuals include resetting the timing, but rarely will the= mechanic state what it was before the change, which would be very useful i= nformation.  I'll bet he advanced the timing of the mag by maybe 2 deg= rees.  Just a guess :-)
Gary

Um =E2=80=93 er - (headscratch) =E2=80=93 fellow LMLer=E2=80=99s= =E2=80=93 since the annual performed by maintenance outfit (not necessaril= y significant) I notice I get a drop around 80 RPM on the Lightspeed igniti= on during run-up, whereas before it was barely noticeable.
 
Been wonderi= ng why. Changed my iridium plugs two days=0A ago just as a starting point b= ut no difference.
 
So thought I would ask the experts herein.
 
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Dom Crain


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