Return-Path: Received: from hil-img-7.compuserve.com ([149.174.177.137]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA27193 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:20:06 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by hil-img-7.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.14) id MAA21822 for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:19:37 -0400 From: Lynda Frantz Subject: Flap relays Sender: Lynda Frantz To: "INTERNET:lancair.list@olsusa.com" Message-ID: <199809211219_MC2-5A1C-A74D@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> A few comments on the 320/360 electric flap system and in particular the system where the push link passes through the aft spar. First it is critical that the limit switches always work perfect. An over extension of the flaps could bend the push link and result in asymetrical flaps. This is a bad thing. Although aysemitrical flap problems have been rare on the Lancair there have been two reported incidents which resulted in crashes. Fortunately both occured in ground effect and the pilots walked away without a scratch. It is imperative that the push link not bind in the aft spar hole. This too could cuase a bending moment on the link causing it to fail resulting in asymetrical flaps. Now back to the electrics of the flaps mentioned in Dan Schaefer's post. I eliminated the flap relays totally and replaced them with two small but electrically big diodes. I also got rid of the magnetic position sensors which I did not trust and their associated heavy cover etc. The circuit is simple and uses two diodes rated at 6 amps continuous and 50V, two standard microswitches used as the travel limit switches and one double pole 3 position flap switch is all that is required. The nice thing about the circuit is that it retains the braking feature by putting a short across the flap motor when the flap switch is moved to the OFF/Brake position forcing the flaps to stop rather than coast. I figure I saved about one pound with this installation. The big inductive loads as mentioned in Dan Schaefer's previous post are infact real. The braking feature which puts a short across the motor prior to it coasting to a stop produces perhaps hundreds of amps briefly. I got them at a surplus store for $.10 each. Digikey stocks similar diodes. To be safe I would use diodes rated even higher than mine. I was reluctant to put this aproach out because it is rather crude and any change to the flap system is critical. But it has worked perfect so far on both my and George Stevenson's Lancair 320's for the past three years. I'll try to get Lynda to find room in the Dec/Jan Lancair Network News for this circuit too. Jim Frantz Lancair Network News