X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:32:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-pz0-f48.google.com ([209.85.210.48] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTPS id 5123119 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:58:58 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.48; envelope-from=billhogarty@gmail.com Received: by pzk34 with SMTP id 34so1508361pzk.7 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:58:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.71.195 with SMTP id x3mr427129pbu.157.1315936701280; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.54.69 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:58:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:58:21 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Figuring out the pressurization system IV-P , and checking for leaks on the ground From: "William A. Hogarty" X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec544ed70a070c904acd6632c --bcaec544ed70a070c904acd6632c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 WOW John.....is that another one of those fighter pilot stories after happy hour??? Bill H. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:20 AM, John Hafen wrote: > Dico: My favorite way to find leaks on the ground is to fire up a good > Monte Christo and have someone outside looking for smoke. > > Doesn't always work, but at least you get to enjoy a good cigar. > > Cigars can be used for navigation as well. You have to do a route in VFR > conditions a few times, and figure out just where you are on the cigar > before it is time to descend. With practice, at the right point on the > cigar, you can descend through the deck to your desired air patch. > > John > > > On Sep 12, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Dico Reijers wrote: > > Hi Brent, > > Thanks for your reply on the IV-P pressurization. I found it quite helpful > and informative as I figure out the pressurization system. > > From my limited testing so far (flying at 10-12k), I've noticed that the > pressurization isn't linear. At 10k my cabin altitude (according to the > indicator) is 5k and the PSI is perhaps 2 or 2.5 differential... since the > POH suggests a 8000' cabin at FL220... I am surprised that I can climb an > additional 12k and have the cabin altitude only rise an additional 3k. I > was flying at 31" / 2500. > > How do you check for leaks on the ground? > > thanks, > > Dico > > > > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > --bcaec544ed70a070c904acd6632c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW John.....is that another one of those fighter pilot stories after happy= hour???=A0 Bill H. =A0=A0

On Tue, Sep 1= 3, 2011 at 3:20 AM, John Hafen <j.hafen@comcast.net> wrote:
Dico: =A0My favorite way to find leaks on t= he ground is to fire up a good Monte Christo and have someone outside looki= ng for smoke.

Doesn't always work, but at least you get to enjoy a good cigar.

Cigars can be used for navigation as well. =A0You have to do a route in VFR= conditions a few times, and figure out just where you are on the cigar bef= ore it is time to descend. =A0With practice, at the right point on the ciga= r, you can descend through the deck to your desired air patch.

John


On Sep 12, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Dico Reijers wrote:

Hi Brent,

Thanks for your reply on the IV-P pressurization. =A0I found it quite helpf= ul and informative as I figure out the pressurization system.

From my limited testing so far (flying at 10-12k), I've noticed that th= e pressurization isn't linear. =A0At 10k my cabin altitude (according t= o the indicator) is 5k and the PSI is perhaps 2 or 2.5 differential... =A0s= ince the POH suggests a 8000' cabin at FL220... I am surprised that I c= an climb an additional 12k and have the cabin altitude only rise an additio= nal 3k. =A0I was flying at 31" / 2500.

How do you check for leaks on the ground?

thanks,

Dico




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