X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 11:25:52 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from carbinge.com ([69.5.27.218] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with SMTP id 5116364 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 09:49:47 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.5.27.218; envelope-from=jbarrett@carbinge.com Received: (qmail 28696 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2011 13:49:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; h=X-Originating-IP:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; s=default; d=carbinge.com; b=k0Cjszcj8770epP/Zy8P0Ye99VtPf1YnV8+7iIG5SP2JuEgByEyIzLdLwIpXnu7JimEySJjNdjD/fVm4lwBKjTaZ8duTU6xh1IB/lSEqgfL/MSftmj3y7Qtu2RGCF1kaEoiWKW6+C2oRDVsRB4aCm84AucnuZSKKiid0GQAxQ88=; X-Originating-IP: [66.235.58.63] Reply-To: From: "John Barrett" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: How to download IFR and VFR Chart Symbols / Legends onto your iPad to use with ForeFlight X-Original-Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 06:49:10 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <07e401cc6d64$ec2a15c0$c47e4140$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_07E5_01CC6D2A.3FCB3DC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcxtVluzppfQvM2cQX6g/bLCOej1+AADbYew Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_07E5_01CC6D2A.3FCB3DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John S, =20 A few weeks ago I saw the WingX pro demonstrated on a friend=E2=80=99s = iPad =E2=80=93 I was showing him Foreflight so we were comparing. I = agree with you that WXPro looks mighty good and will try it out in = flight later when my subscription at Foreflight gets skinny. =20 I did read a review online (can=E2=80=99t recall who did it) of the two = as a comparison and the writer thought both programs were excellent with = some advantages of each over the other. At the end of the day the = writer felt that WingX Pro would be better for VFR flight while he = preferred Foreflight for IFR. =20 =20 I have noticed that one or two of the neat bells and whistles that I saw = on WingX Pro either had been added or were just there and I = didn=E2=80=99t know how to use them. I suspect that both outfits are = trying to add on the good ideas the other one has incorporated. =20 =20 Regards, John Barrett =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = John Schroeder Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:05 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: How to download IFR and VFR Chart Symbols / Legends = onto your iPad to use with ForeFlight =20 John Barrett - =20 Try a trial subscription to WingX Pro. They have the Seattle Avionics = Georeferenced Charts & Approach Plates as an add-on. They work great. = Also, they have the chart symbology for the charts already installed = and are a button push away. They also have the airspace option to = outline the controlled airspace and sectors with a blue line. This is a = great help on both the Sectionals (much easier to read) and the IFR = charts (airspace sectors are not shown on these). Touching within a = sector pulls up the altitudes. Pretty slick. =20 I have a subscription for boand much prefer the WingX - very few icons = to confuse you and their moving maps system is much better. It has a = split screen that can be customized with a nice array of options. One = has a sectional and the other the IFR =20 Cheers, =20 John =20 =20 =20 =20 On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 10:31:08 -0400, John Barrett = wrote: =20 Speaking of =E2=80=9Cteam Foreflight=E2=80=9D has anyone else = experienced problems with these guys? I have a full subscription = =E2=80=93 not the new Canadian add on but the $149/year deal that is = supposed to include georeferenced Safe Taxi diagrams as well as = georeferenced approaches. =20 =20 I get the safe taxi portion on my iPad but not the approach plates. = Does anyone know if there is a setup issue with this? I have the plates = but they are not georeferenced and don=E2=80=99t have the light blue box = that is supposed to describe the active area of the iPad screen. =20 What ticks me off is that I have tried to contact these people and they = are not responsive. I cannot find a support phone number and they have = not responded to email requests for assistance.=20 =20 I may just not be looking in the right place so do not want to flame = them unfairly. However, when they are taking my subscription money, I = sure as heck want them to be available to help me operate the program = and/or fix deficiencies that occur. =20 I really like the program and want it to do all that is promised. =20 John Barrett =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = John Hafen Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 8:43 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] How to download IFR and VFR Chart Symbols / Legends onto = your iPad to use with ForeFlight =20 You guys may be way ahead of me on this, but I found this handy to have = chart symbology handy in iBooks. =20 John =20 Begin forwarded message: =20 From: "Team ForeFlight" Date: August 31, 2011 11:04:13 AM PDT To: "John Hafen" Subject: Re: (Case 75296) Product Improvement Suggestion =20 Hello John, The FAA has published in PDF form a set of legends for VFR charts, IFR = charts, and terminal procedures. The references are great, so we've = elected to link to them. We recommend customers download copies of these PDFs and keep them in = iBooks or PDF reader app of choice: http://bit.ly/nK4622 To download to your iPad/iPhone, first install iBooks (free) from the = App Store, then tap Safari and go to the above link. Then tap the link = for the PDF version of the FAA Aeronautical Chart User's Guide. When = the Guide appears, tap the Open in iBooks. Use the scroll bar along = the bottom to move quickly through the documents. Also, Airspace details are now an interactive feature in ForeFlight = Mobile v4. Just tap and hold on the airspace on the VFR or IFR enroute = charts, a box will pop up, tap All, and the first item(s) list will be = the airspace details. Also, be sure to set the Show Map Features to Tap-Hold in the ForeFlight = Mobile Settings. Give that a try and let us know if any other questions arise -- we're = happy to help! Stanley Hinson ForeFlight Pilot Support ForeFlight LLC _____ =20 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3879 - Release Date: 09/05/11 --=20 Cheers, John _____ =20 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3881 - Release Date: 09/06/11 ------=_NextPart_000_07E5_01CC6D2A.3FCB3DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi John S,

 

A few weeks ago I saw the WingX pro demonstrated on a = friend=E2=80=99s iPad =E2=80=93 I was showing him Foreflight so we were = comparing.=C2=A0 I agree with you that WXPro looks mighty good and will = try it out in flight later when my subscription at Foreflight gets = skinny.

 

I did read a review online (can=E2=80=99t recall who did it) of the = two as a comparison and the writer thought both programs were excellent = with some advantages of each over the other.=C2=A0 At the end of the day = the writer felt that WingX Pro would be better for VFR flight while he = preferred Foreflight for IFR.=C2=A0

 

I have noticed that one or two of the neat bells and whistles that I = saw on WingX Pro either had been added or were just there and I = didn=E2=80=99t know how to use them.=C2=A0 I suspect that both outfits = are trying to add on the good ideas the other one has = incorporated.=C2=A0

 

Regards,
John Barrett

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = John Schroeder
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:05 = AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: How = to download IFR and VFR Chart Symbols / Legends onto your iPad to use = with ForeFlight

 

John = Barrett -

 <= /o:p>

Try a trial = subscription to WingX Pro. They have the Seattle Avionics Georeferenced = Charts & Approach Plates as an add-on. They work great. Also, they = have the chart symbology for the charts  already installed and are = a button push away. They also have the airspace option to outline the = controlled airspace and sectors with a blue line. This is a great help = on both the Sectionals (much easier to read) and the IFR charts = (airspace sectors are not shown on these). Touching within a sector = pulls up the altitudes. Pretty slick.

 <= /o:p>

I have a = subscription for boand much prefer the WingX - very few icons to confuse = you and their moving maps system is much better. It has a split screen = that can be customized with a nice array of options. One has a sectional = and the other the IFR

 <= /o:p>

Cheers,=

 <= /o:p>

John

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

On Tue, 06 = Sep 2011 10:31:08 -0400, John Barrett <jbarrett@carbinge.com> = wrote:

 <= /o:p>

Speaking of =E2=80=9Cteam Foreflight=E2=80=9D has anyone else = experienced problems with these guys?  I have a full subscription = =E2=80=93 not the new Canadian add on but the $149/year deal that is = supposed to include georeferenced Safe Taxi diagrams as well as = georeferenced approaches. 

 

I get the safe taxi portion on my iPad but not the approach = plates.  Does anyone know if there is a setup issue with this? I = have the plates but they are not georeferenced and don=E2=80=99t have = the light blue box that is supposed to describe the active area of the = iPad screen.

 

What ticks me off is that I have tried to contact these people and = they are not responsive.  I cannot find a support phone number and = they have not responded to email requests for assistance. =

 

I may just not be looking in the right place so do not want to flame = them unfairly.  However, when they are taking my subscription = money, I sure as heck want them to be available to help me operate the = program and/or fix deficiencies that occur.

 

I really like the program and want it to do all that is = promised.

 

John Barrett

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = John Hafen
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 8:43 = PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] How to = download IFR and VFR Chart Symbols / Legends onto your iPad to use with = ForeFlight

 <= /o:p>

You guys = may be way ahead of me on this, but I found this handy to have chart = symbology handy in iBooks.

 <= /o:p>

John

 <= /o:p>

Begin = forwarded message:

 <= /o:p>

From: = "Tea= m ForeFlight" <team@foreflight.com>

Date: = August = 31, 2011 11:04:13 AM PDT

To: = "Joh= n Hafen" <j.hafen@comcast.net>

Subject: = Re: (Case 75296) Product Improvement = Suggestion

 <= /o:p>

Hello = John,

The FAA has published in PDF form a set of legends for VFR = charts, IFR charts, and terminal procedures. The references are great, = so we've elected to link to them.

We recommend customers download = copies of these PDFs and keep them in iBooks or PDF reader app of = choice:   http://bit.ly/nK4622

To = download to your iPad/iPhone, first install iBooks (free) from the App = Store, then tap Safari and go to the above link.  Then tap the link = for the PDF version of the FAA Aeronautical Chart User's Guide. =  When the Guide appears, tap the Open in iBooks.   Use = the scroll bar along the bottom to move quickly through the = documents.

Also, Airspace details are now an interactive feature = in ForeFlight Mobile v4.  Just tap and hold on the airspace on the = VFR or IFR enroute charts, a box will pop up, tap All, and the first = item(s) list will be the airspace details.

Also, be sure to set = the Show Map Features to Tap-Hold in the ForeFlight Mobile = Settings.

Give that a try and let us know if any other questions = arise -- we're happy to help!

Stanley Hinson
ForeFlight Pilot = Support
ForeFlight LLC

No virus = found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1392 / = Virus Database: 1520/3879 - Release Date: = 09/05/11



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Cheers,<= /span>

John<= /span>

No virus = found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1392 / = Virus Database: 1520/3881 - Release Date: = 09/06/11

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