X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:14:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5114045 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:11:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.97; envelope-from=N66mg@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p85BAr09017228 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 07:10:53 -0400 Received: from core-dse003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dse003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.227.201]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BC206E000088 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 07:10:53 -0400 (EDT) From: N66mg@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <17e3d.495dee06.3b96083d@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 07:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Gear Hand Pump LIV X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_17e3d.495dee06.3b96083d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [68.225.243.134] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:478550528:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e4e64ae3d2627 --part1_17e3d.495dee06.3b96083d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like more info on this, before ordering...Perhaps a photo with instructions, cost and how heavy is it... Michael n66mg@aol.com In a message dated 9/2/2011 4:51:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, colyncase@earthlink.net writes: Matt, Sounds interesting. do you have a schematic for this? I would just want to understand the failure modes before I ordered one. Colyn Case On Sep 1, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Matthew Collier wrote: Mr. Paczkowski, We have installed an emergency blow down accumulator in almost all of our customers IV's. They aren't light but are a much easier and faster way to get the gear down. When retrofitted to a flying IV we typically install the piston accumulator on the back of the spar box. Then we use two stainless steel ball valves mounted between the seats to operate the system, one on the forward spar box flange and the other on the aft. The forward valve releases the pressure holding the gear in the up position. The aft valve releases the fluid pressurized in the piston accumulator to the emergency side of the shuttle valve. When the valves are shut and the system is recharged in the down position the shuttle valve returns to its normal position and the accumulator will recharge during the next gear up cycle. We have had great success with this system and our customers even practice emergency blow downs in flight since it is completely reset each time without servicing. Matthew Fibercraft Inc. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Nicholas Paczkowski <_npaczkowski@telus.net_ (mailto:npaczkowski@telus.net) > wrote: Perhaps a dumb question (apologies in advance) but Is there a better alternative available to the manually operated hydraulic 'gear down' lever (such as a charged gas bottle) that would eliminate both the awkward lever and the seemingly inevitable leaking of hydraulic fluid? Thanks. = --part1_17e3d.495dee06.3b96083d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would like mor= e info on=20 this, before ordering...Perhaps a photo with instructions, cost and ho= w=20 heavy is it...
Michael
n66mg@aol.com
 
In a message dated 9/2/2011 4:51:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20 colyncase@earthlink.net writes:
= Matt,=20

Sounds interesting.   do you have a schematic for this?  I= =20 would just want to understand the failure modes before I ordered one.

Colyn Case

On Sep 1, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Matthew Collier wrote:
Mr. Paczkowski,
We have installed an emergen= cy=20 blow down accumulator in almost all of our customers IV's. They aren't = light=20 but are a much easier and faster way to get the gear down. When retrofi= tted=20 to a flying IV we typically install the piston accumulator on the back = of=20 the spar box. Then we use two stainless steel ball valves mounted betwe= en=20 the seats to operate the system, one on the forward spar box flange and= the=20 other on the aft. The forward valve releases the pressure holding the g= ear=20 in the up position. The aft valve releases the fluid pressurized in the= =20 piston accumulator to the emergency side of the shuttle valve. When the= =20 valves are shut and the system is recharged in the down position the sh= uttle=20 valve returns to its normal position and the accumulator will recharge= =20 during the next gear up cycle. We have had great success with this syst= em=20 and our customers even practice emergency blow downs in flight since it= is=20 completely reset each time without servicing.

Matthew
Fiber= craft=20 Inc.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Nicholas Pacz= kowski=20 <npaczkowski@telus.net>=20 wrote:

 

Perhaps a dumb question (apologies in advance) b= ut Is=20 there a better alternative available to the manually operated hydraul= ic=20 'gear down' lever (such as a charged gas bottle) that would eliminate= both=20 the awkward lever and the seemingly inevitable leaking of hydraulic f= luid?=20 Thanks.



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