X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:09:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.17] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5098933 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:11:19 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.173.17; envelope-from=danny.miller@verizon.net Received: from DannyLaptop ([unknown] [71.114.1.123]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0LQA00HU61TJ6TL0@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 07:10:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Danny Miller" X-Original-To: "'Steve Colwell'" , References: In-reply-to: Subject: RE: How do I run lean of peak? X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:10:29 -0400 X-Original-Message-id: <000b01cc5ffb$522d43f0$f687cbd0$@miller@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01CC5FD9.CB1BA3F0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AcxdxWdNuTwzz1drSLSHNnuigDWl2QCMwXEw This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CC5FD9.CB1BA3F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=92m not convinced of the ROI for spending $995 on this course in my particular case. As an example, for my LNC2 with an IO-360, if I burn 9 = gph running ROP and 8.5 gph running LOP (best case scenario), how long does = it take to recover the expense? To keep it simple, let=92s say I spend = $6/gal. So, that=92s $995 x gal/$6 / 0.5gph =3D 331.7 hrs, or about 3 years of = flying. So, the question becomes, is it worth all the hub bub? Again, for me, I think not. For you guys with the high burn rates, maybe so. But what = is your actual hourly saving and is it worth the additional stress on your engines for the potentially much lower TBO? You decide and your mileage = may vary. =20 Danny Miller N 38=B0 43' 25.7" W 77=B0 30' 38.6" =20 From: Steve Colwell [mailto:mcmess1919@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:40 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: How do I run lean of peak? =20 Claudette and I attended the Advanced Pilot Course a couple of years = ago. Of the 50 or so attendees, (and there were skeptics,) I don=92t think = anyone left without agreement their procedures are the best way to operate an engine. The presentation is easy to follow with complete explanation of what is happening and why. Any remaining questions are answered and everything is documented. The cost of the course should be easily = amortized by fuel savings and reduced maintenance. They even provide very = comfortable swivel chairs. =20 =20 Steve Colwell Legacy IO-550 =20 =20 Subject: [LML] How do I run lean of peak? =20 If you operate your engine ROP at high power settings you have a much greater chance of damaging your engine than by anything you might do = LOP. =20 The next Live APS class is October 7-9. =20 Walter Atkinson Advanced Pilot Seminars =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CC5FD9.CB1BA3F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’m not convinced of the = ROI for spending $995 on this course in my particular case.=A0 As an = example, for my LNC2 with an IO-360, if I burn 9 gph running ROP and 8.5 = gph running LOP (best case scenario), how long does it take to recover = the expense?=A0 To keep it simple, let’s say I spend $6/gal.=A0 = So, that’s $995 x gal/$6 / 0.5gph =3D 331.7 hrs, or about 3 years = of flying.=A0 So, the question becomes, is it worth all the hub bub?=A0 = Again, for me, I think not.=A0 For you guys with the high burn rates, = maybe so.=A0 But what is your actual hourly saving and is it worth the = additional stress on your engines for the potentially much lower TBO?=A0 = You decide and your mileage may vary.

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Danny = Miller

N 38=B0 43' = 25.7"

W 77=B0 30' = 38.6"

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From: Steve = Colwell [mailto:mcmess1919@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 = 12:40 PM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: How do I run lean of = peak?

 

Claudette and I attended the = Advanced Pilot Course a couple of years ago.  Of the 50 or so = attendees, (and there were skeptics,) I don’t think anyone left = without agreement their procedures are the best way to operate an = engine.  The presentation is easy to follow with complete = explanation of what is happening and why.  Any remaining questions = are answered and everything is documented.  The cost of the course = should be easily amortized by fuel savings and reduced = maintenance.  They even provide very comfortable swivel = chairs. 

 

Steve Colwell  Legacy IO-550

 

 


Subject: [LML] How do I run lean = of peak?

 

If you operate your engine ROP at high power = settings you have a much greater chance of damaging your engine than by = anything you might do LOP.

 

=

The next Live APS class is October = 7-9.

 

=

Walter = Atkinson

Advanced Pilot = Seminars

 

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